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This is great news, I’ve been wanting to see this for a long time. Kids are exposed to pornography extremely young now and it can ruin their lives. If it were up to me I would hold the companies criminally liable for it, but this is a good start.

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Sugar is much more likely to ruin lives. Maybe we can hold parents liable for poisoning their children?

Or I don't know, let parents parent without involving government in regulating indulgences.

Sugar is more likely to ruin kids than pornography? You’d rather give a kid porn than sugar? Dumbest thing I’ve heard in a while.

The amount of sugar most kids eat is objectively bad for their bodies.

Porn is not objectively bad.

Take from that what you will.

Porn is not objectively bad for kids to watch? What planet are you on?

The Planet of the Dogma Crusaders?

I can say that it was probably a lot less bad to see Phoebe Cates topless than Clint Eastwood killing a bunch of people when I was a kid.

You think that’s what porn sites are showing to kids? You’re either naive, willingly misrepresenting reality, or not high IQ

What is "bad" about it? It's literally the most natural things humans (and most species on the planet) do.

The fact that you are equating pornography with natural sex is evidence that your mind has been completely warped by porn.

Please oh wise devout spiritual leader, explain how porn has warped my mind.

When you think of sex, do you think of those innocent portrayals in movies where people save themselves until marriage and then whenever they have sex it is the most gentle (and boring) experience where they slowly move until they are done and then have a magical baby?

Yeah, that's not natural. That is how religions have wanted you to think about sex because they barely even approve of it except to create a baby.

If anything most porn is more realistic of our animalistic wants than the bs we have been fed on tv.

So please, tell me what you mean by "porn" doesn't represent sex. Because I have to say, for all the porn I have watched my wife and I have enjoyed most of it.

Evidently you think having sex to have a baby is not natural, but you and your wife watching porn actors have sex on a TV is natural. If that’s not warped I don’t know what is.

Uhhh nice try on your comprehension.

Let's try this again. Sex is supposed to be raw and wild. Not what religious people want to push as pure and innocent.

So my question to you again- what about "porn" is not natural sex? Even though the question is kind of stupid in itself because porn means a lot of things. But you are the one that said it.

So please explain my pure friend.

Porn is exaggerated, often violent and extremely degrading. It’s a product made by actors and producers for money. Nothing more than prostitution on camera. Pornographers know this perfectly well, I don’t see why you’re having a hard time grasping it.

>Porn is exaggerated, often violent and extremely degrading

Wait.. this is your whole point? Your argument is based on... that?

"extremely degrading" is completely arbitrary- and many people enjoy being degraded or to degregate someone to some degree during sex. That's literally why people watch it. But I guess that's just too real of a concept for you to grasp. As I said in my other post, the scenes during a romance movie where the girl lays on her back and everyone has gentle boring sex is NOT reality. Porn is closer to reality than that.

And you do realize that almost EVERY type of every media you see/read is exaggerated?

Ever watch a romance movie before? Ever read a romance novel? That's not how shit works in real life. Should we ban that as well because teenage girls are going to watch it and think that's how things work?

Which is why all you need to do is TALK with your children openly about sex and just put a few things in the right context. Just like you should talk to them about anything (violence in movies, romance in movies) and put it in the right context.

It's ridiculous how afraid of sex you are. Grow up and stop trying to limit people with your prudishness.

Sorry to trigger you but you’re really proving my point here. You’ve admitted it’s degrading and you say that you (sorry I mean “many people”) like that about it. Evidence of a mind warped by porn. Not to mention the industry is rife with human trafficking and abuse. You should try stopping your porn use and see how it heals your mind. You can thank me later.

The funny part is that you actually think this will have any real impact.

There are a billion other porn sites, and even I would argue watching all the thirst traps on TikTok or Instagram are way more "harmful" than straight out porn.

So this will do absolutely nothing except allow sites like Pornhub to literally know the exact person viewing what videos now. Yeah, that's just wonderful.

The funny part is that even this tiny bit of legislation to protect kids from porn has you up in arms. I would like to see way way more legal action against the porn industry than this, but at least it makes them liable for damages if they ruin a kid’s innocence.

>The funny part is that even this tiny bit of legislation to protect kids from porn has you up in arms

It's because ADULTS have to literally prove their identity to watch porn because of your "protect the children" campaign. And that means both the porn site and the state can DIRECTLY track exactly what you are doing.

And also.. what exactly are you "protecting" kids from... seeing sex? The most natural things human do? Fucking ludicrous.

>ruin a kid’s innocence

The word you are looking for is "ignorance".

You have to prove your age, just like with any other age restricted activity. And why are you putting protect the children in scare quotes? It’s exactly what the law is doing. And if you think pornographic sex is natural then you are deeply confused.

Obesity is a problem too - no chocolate without ID /s

The state can't be a substitute for good parenting.

First, comparing porn to candy is absurd. Porn is way more destructive psychologically. Second, the stuff is everywhere - a kid can pick up a friend’s iPad and get scarred for life by what these companies are putting out. No one parent has the power to stop it, so it makes sense for the state to do so.

I disagree. They both have the potential to cause serious harm in different ways.

Candy is more destructive physically. It's everywhere. No one parent has the power to stop it, so it makes sense for the state to do so.

You really think candy is more destructive for a kid than pornography? One can scar them for life, the other dissolves and goes away. You are not being realistic at all

All of this is anecdote/opinion for both of us, but I'd say obesity is incomparably worse for society than porn.

Do you feel the same way about other forms of child sexual abuse? Like for instance if a kid gets abused only one time is that about the equivalent in your mind to them eating one piece of chocolate on the scale of things which can have long term effects on their life?

It’s obviously not even close to the same

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