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Parenthesis are used for increasing the weights of some terms. See how he uses single, double or triple parenthesis on different words. It has nothing to do with the triple parenthesis jew thing.
Just ran
rg '\(\(\(.*\)\)\)'
Get.A.Life.People.
Do you engage in discussion with white supremacists or their victims/targets? Do you use triple parenthesis all the time while describing other people?
If none of the above, then what you are doing is the equivalent of making irrelevant noise.
Now, there's a slight difference between you writing a comment that goes `This calculates the size of the universe (((note: absolutely fix this it runs in O(n^n))))`, and you going `goddamn I hate (((them)))` in forums swimming in white supremacists.
You are not being persecuted. If anything, hate on the far right using the dumbest fucking signals to try to "blend in".
Thanks, I learned something new today.
However the GP was careful to note that context is important here. I've no idea about term weights in these AI prompts, but you seem to so if varying levels of parenthesis is common to denote a weight then you can simply say so without the snark.
In this climate, it takes one Twitter personality with a lot of followers to tweet out a “look at this racist” tweet with very vague references to your crimes, and that’s it, you’re a racist to a huge number of people who will probably never look beyond that single tweet. Good luck convincing 20% of them that you’re in fact innocent afterwards.
Edit: Years ago when I was part of a high profile open source project, I was once privately accused of being intolerant towards trans people. It happened after I sharply criticized some trans person's backwards-incompatible PR (which later proved to be pretty bad after being merged despite objections). I had no idea of the person's gender before the accusation, nor did I care after learning about it; they were simply an Internet handle to me. I also never used slurs towards any group. Looking back I'm just glad I wasn't shamed publicly.
Context does matter.
edit: ok so digit is one of the people further down the thread, I'm not good with names
edit2: To respond to your edit, that sucks and I sympathise. I think this is an unfortunate side effect of the fact that when you're on the internet you're now exposed to thousands of different people who don't already know what kind of person you are, who misread and misinterpret remarks or who might have just had a shitty day and want to take it out on someone. Hell I'm one of those left-liberal, pro-lgbtq+, pro-feminist guys and I've had experience like yours very recently. I'd replied to a comment on FB where someone complained that some public works project cost X million euros, and said that non-engineers like us don't tend to have a good idea what such projects should cost - got a very angry reply along the lines of "Oh just because I'm a girl I get scared around big numbers? Girls can't do maths or engineering? ...". I had no idea what their gender was, the name was "Alex" and their profile pic was some anime or something :) It happens, it's frustrating and somewhere in my city there's a girl called Alex who either thinks I'm some misogyny bro or feels a bit silly for flying off the handle at me. It's the internet, [shrug] what can you do :)
I'm a person on HN. I didn't know that.
It's pretty esoteric, and that's coming from someone who's APL-curious.
But then, I don't spend any of my time reading alt-right or anti-alt-right blogs.
It makes (((PERFECT))) sense that a person with a foot fetish would want an accurate foot.
However, we live in a world with so many people that anything (and I truly mean anything) will be taken as offensive by at least one person.
QED.
This reddit link posted elsewhere gives a more damning view, aside from the triple parentheses: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/co...
Later someone points out that there is another artist who paints mostly darker skin tones who also has the n identifier.
I can, immediately and without effort, see why this might be added. As a way to force representation in output. This is, to me, akin to paint which lets you pick a color (let's go with purple) for skin.
The Rimworld mod cited apparently comes with an "all white, all black, and all yellow" version. The only version mentioned by the angry folks is the white one.
Does anyone know the truth of the matter above?
Rimworld: It was whites only at first, black only got added later and then integrated.
Personally I would not call any of the actions racist. The first one can be a legitimate use case with an incredibly poor choice of identifier (or incredibly good in at least one scenario). The mod being updated kind of argues for itself.
I think I will see on the side of caution and call it ignorance instead of malice.
The scenario is one where the n is completely harmless and the purported(on Reddit) word was nowhere in the mind when being typed.
Seems like the kind of thing GitHub should reach out to people about before acting on. At least where there is any (even farfetched) possible explanation.
I don't know how you would validate this but it doesn't seem unreasonable.
I'd guess this was enforced by someone reading a corporate policy that said "if you see triple parentheses, it's hate speech, ban the account".
On further investigation (see reddit) there also seems to be a CSV file with artist names in the repo. Black artists have a string 'n' in some unspecified column. I can't check myself if this might mean something else, eg. if other ethnicities also have this string... but there are some suspicious things going on in a that repo for sure. More than just the parentheses.
It is not exclusively applied to any skin color either.
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...including removing any non-white characters from Rimworld
You should also mention there are two counterpart mods called "black only" and "yellow only"
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The silver lining of this bullshit is that this again underscores how important critical thinking is.
What makes me sad is the amount of effort needed to figure out A) why could github have banned this account, B) knowing that, do I feel this is fair or an over-reaction
I planned to use this repo professionally, so getting to the bottom of this is important to me. Instead of clarity, there's outrage and selective reporting; I couldn't find anything conclusive so far.
If that is distasteful or harmful then so are Netflix adaptations.
As an example, there are plenty of racist things a black only mod enables.
Yellow only I would use if I still liked The Simpsons and played the game in question.
AUTOMATIC had nothing to do with that prompt. A user from the Furry Diffusion Discord wrote it and I was suspended from reddit for posting it here (NSFW): https://www.reddit.com/r/FurAI/comments/y2l9o5/want_a_ride_m...
The suspension was lifted on appeal. Terms like “disfigured” were in the negative prompt to make appearance less likely, and the parentheses were to add or reduce weight of certain terms. I’m amused, but baffled, to see it brought up here at all—it should have nothing at all to do with any of this.
In what ways? All I can see is some furry porn stuff. Explicit and not my fetish, but what parts are disgusting?
I always thought that was just, you know, a Tuesday on Animal Planet?
In the end though, I blame Disney.
I’d say it’s an odd choice, except there are also plenty of others.
Yuck.
If you find that yucky, you need help.
Why are all the nice things ruined by bigots.
They aren't. If we just go about doing our thing such as using triple parentheses to mean hugs and the OK symbol to mean OK and the country's flag to mean reasonable love of home and country, then they'll find some other symbol. By making a big deal about what those people get up to and so avoiding them, we cede these beautiful, powerful symbols to assholes. Don't do it. It's the ceding that ruins them.
edit: Background https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol
Seems like they managed to have white power fans actually adopt it.
1. 4chan tries to say it means "White Power"
2. the news pick this up and runs with it
3. actual white nationalists started using it
or
1. 4chan tries to say it means "White Power"
2. actual white nationalists started using it
3. the news reports that white nationalists are using it
News orgs can be easily fooled into reporting ridiculous fake shit and backfiring - like the whole "teens eating tide pods" thing causing a few teens and boomers to actually try eating them - so both are possible, I'd suspect that the latter is more likely though.
But it’s telling that the ADL at first refused to add it to their list of hate-signs, and then (according to wikipedia, after all I only heard of all this today) reversed their stance 2 years later. And almost all usage of the sign getting someone into trouble have also been 2019+ (again, from the wiki list).
This is what's important - it's not banned, it's not going to get you jailed. It's just going to land you in a tricky situation if you use it where it's going to be interpreted as a hate symbol.
What you do with this information is up to you.
However I don't think that on its use on its own would cause a mob to mass report your account or anything. It's not so self-evidently a sign of hate as a hakenkreuz or the nazi salute would be, it's just worth remembering that in some rare situations it could be poorly received.
According to him, it was a sign that KKK members in his town used to signal group membership to one another. In his telling the three extended fingers meant KKK, and they would tuck the thumb and index finger in their belt or waistband.
Either he was making it up then and it’s a complete coincidence his story matches the 4chan story 15 years later, which is also made up; or there’s a kernel of truth to it, and this guy was letting us in on some weird aspect of racist subculture that made its way to the mainstream in 2017. These people had so many other weird customs (like calling themselves wizards and dragons), I don’t see why secret hand signals are out of the question.
I'm reminded of her awkward "I'm just chillin ... in Cedar Rapids!" vine
The problem is that when journalists make mistakes, it becomes fact, true or not.
The impact is overwhelming power transfer to racists.
This makes sense given the skewed overlay of people who are now "social justice warriors" that were once incredibly prejudice clowns.
Back when the alt-right "Electric Boogaloo" thing was going on, one article I think hit the nail on the head saying something "If you want to wear a Hawaiian shirt, go for it. Just maybe think twice about accessorizing with body armor and assault rifles." The point being that just because some nut jobs make a point of wearing Hawaiian shirt under their militia get-up doesn't poison Hawaiian shirts. Context matters.
This string has legitimate uses and also offensive uses. Context decides which one it is.
I think they have proved beyond shadow of doubt that they are not
If you're not familiar, these sorts of mods are near universally made for racist dogwhistling; they're the "barely passable but not really" version of mods that would straight up whitewash non-white characters. The entire debacle started a couple of years ago iirc with the game Stardew Valley, which has non-randomized unique characters and someone made a mod to iirc whitewash the black characters that the game has (straight up just respriting them to look white).
The mod was pulled from both Steam and Nexus if I recall, and a few weeks later you saw these sorts of "one skin color only" mods appear in games with a heavy focus on randomized character creation (the uploaders of these mods also usually try to say it's not racist by uploading multiple variations such as a mod that disables all white skin colors; this is just flimsy excuses, which becomes apparent when you look at the activity stats for these mods). Modding sites aren't very reliable on taking action on them, so it's the loophole used to still get away with doing racist shit.
All contained basically the same few lines of code that skew the number distribution for the "RandomMelanin" method in the game.
All three are still available on the Steam workshop, although it seems like the functionality of all 3 mods was merged into the "White only" mod, which now provides a slider that lets you select the range instead of hardcoding it, and that is the only source code that remained on their github. This is the only mod of the three that was actively updated for new versions of the game so that has an impact on the statistics as well.
GitHub probably doesn't want to be seen hosting that shit because they're a company with business agreements and other businesses tend to start side-eyeing you and leaving you for competitors if you don't take action when people report racist stuff to you. (Usually because not cleaning that stuff up tends to be indicative of worse problems not being actioned on). GitHub in specific has a pretty nasty skeleton in the closet that they would really rather not have attention drawn to (their ICE contract, which has cost them several other contracts and has typically cost them about a third of their workforce every time it gets renewed), so they tend to be far more proactive in cleaning up that sort of thing.
Their TOS probably has a line forbidding this sort of mod from being uploaded and someone probably just filed a report to GitHub about it breaking their TOS or someone from their T&S team happened to find it while checking up on Automatics repositories.
Its problematic. Maybe racist. But whitewashing?
The RimWorld mods aren't whitewashing, they're just problematic and when you take in the broader context of the history of these sorts of mods (not to mention the history of these RimWorld mods on the Steam workshop, as another commenter pointed out, they started with the all white mod and only uploaded the all black and all yellow mods later), are pretty clearly racist.
As for the OK sign thing; that was a case of "4chan sliced a bunch of older pictures together of Trump and his ilk making an OK-sign" (which yeah, it's a common hand gesture, wow). The kinda strange thing is that it resulted in a sort of self-perpetuating effect; you had in part the media falling for the prank, but at the same time, those very same Trump supporters started doing the OK-hand deliberately to indicate what political "team" they belonged on.
It fell out of favor with those Trump supporters after a bit (because y'know, it was just a trend and trends defined solely by "trolling the libs" don't tend to last; eventually "the libs" catch on and they need something new).
Basically doing something ironically can make the people whose behavior you're emulating think they're in good company. Unless you take it to straight up absurdist levels (no Nazi will ever use Springtime for Hitler as propaganda), that will always happen.
Stuff like being clear about it being made to mock (as with Poes Law, which suggests things like the /s sarcasm marker) or extreme absurdity (Springtime) helps avoid that.
Ridiculous.
This is mod as in modification, not as in moderator.
e.g. might it apply some weighting to the phrase?
Additionally, I wonder, looking at that prompt, maybe he was banned for beastiality.
But like, it’s racist if I want to modify a single player game to make the players white? And even if it is I wish people would just butt out. Seems like a bunch of busybodies policing behavior. It’s just gotten crazy and is really dumb at this point. Are we going to have to have a “free speech GitHub” run by Elon Musk too? How did the internet turn into such a snooze fest where every edgelord has to be sanded down to be safe and snuggly so nobody gets hurt?
I remember my wife got banned from the Sims mod community for asking if there was a mod that’d let her simulate Craster’s Keep from Game of Thrones. She likes telling bizarre stories through electronic media. If she wanted to tell that story in Rimworld (which like, I don’t play Rimworld so just guessing) she’d need a mod to make the skin tones match up. Uh oh is that racist now?
> [...] nsfw [...] on all fours [...] balls [...] penis between paws [...]
He got banned for sex prompting?
> [...] disfigured face, missing eyes, missing limbs [...] 2 toes, 3 toes [...]
Okay, okay... maybe GitHub isn't the place for popularising gore porn generators, but...
> [...] child, young [...]
Ah.
Thank you for clarifying.
I've used my ignorance as an opportunity for others to better interpret this also.