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I thought the most interesting bit was the privacy OHTTP which they’re building a service around[0]. How this will differ from a VPN will be interesting. The gist of it is that the http connections are naive and don’t really record an “accurate” up address or trace, if I understand correctly

[0]: https://blog.cloudflare.com/building-privacy-into-internet-s...

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Maybe I misunderstand but this just looks like a buzzword mix of proxy + QUIC (i.e. TLS wrapped HTTP).

Seems kinda pointless given that most of the internet is already behind a Cloudflare MITM anyway.

The idea is to compose intermediaries run by different parties, so that no single entity has access to both the unencrypted payload and client ip address / connection context. It’s a controlled form of proxying where the proxy doesn’t have access to the plaintext. Not currently designed for everyday browsing; the use cases are things like collecting telemetry.

So....Tor

CloudFlare's solution is significantly less secure than Tor; it's more like visiting an HTTPS website using a VPN service. You have to trust that the VPN and the website operator aren't colluding to de-anonymize you, and that they aren't both being monitored by the same third party (who can de-anonymize you using timing information).

Possibly by design as the NSA leans pretty heavy on CF these days for DPI.

No they don’t.

Well that's an interesting statement from an interesting person.

I thought you were being facetious about what could have been a throwaway comment from a throwaway account, but then I checked their bio; this particular type of interaction is one of the things that I love about HN.

Same here, I've learned to check. I really should have explicitly pointed out who, so it was less blown off. Almost came back and did so. And yes, why HN is great.

Well, Tor is really slow to be honest, I think that’s where OHTTP will shine.

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