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Couldn’t agree more with this, with the exception of being so casual about security updates.

I miss real OSX. I miss Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion.

Where are the no new features upgrades? I don’t need new lipstick on the pig every year. I need it to work without regressions.

Also I want to set fire to the settings screen in Ventura. It’s bad. It’s just bad. Someone did a bad job.

New OSX versions used to be a good thing. Now I just dread them for fear of what they’ll break just for an excuse to make the computer that I “own” a paperweight after a fixed time period.

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> Where are the no new features upgrades? I don’t need new lipstick on the pig every year. I need it to work without regressions.

This is one area where free software really shines. I recently put aside a simple desktop I had put together myself from parts that I had used for nearly 20 years. Updated from one OS version to the next with no issues, no new features forced on me, no surprises. Things only changed when I decided to change them.

Only reason I finally ditched it a year or so ago is that technology has moved on and I want to try something new.

What's so wrong with the settings screen, apart from looking like iOS? It seems fine to me.

Once I learned to stop caring about OSX updates, they make pretty much 0 difference to my life.

theres a lot of things that don’t affect your daily life that are worth caring about, like someone getting murdered, someone stalking someone else, or a company tracking/stalking someone else

This seems to not be a substantive response to parent’s question about the settings screen.

Or do you mean that the settings screen is used by Apple to enable tracking/stalking its users? Do you mind clarifying?

My main complaint with the Settings screen is it it tries to squeeze everything into a vertical tower. I think it would be a lot better if we could make the screen bigger. It just feels so cramped on my Ultra Wide monitor.

Yeah this year was particularly bad with that stage manager stuff that really added nothing useful to the desktop. The idea is ok but it wastes a ton of space.

On the iPad it's arguably useful but that's mainly because it doesn't have real windows.

I also felt that every year Apple was sawing the legs off my chair by changing or removing features I used. At least now with KDE I have choice.

So how do we get this across to Apple?

Why do you assume they don't know?

Install Asahi on all their machines?

I actually tried this 6 months ago and in no way found the Linux experience better than macOS even though I would on principle prefer living with an open source OS (I also don’t actually notice a lot of issues on macOS). Of course that was still pretty early for Linux on M1 so I’ll probably try it again in the future.

This is how I feel. Asahi is not quite there for me, but it is definitely going to get there prior to my M1s being desupported on Monterey (which is definitely good enough for me).

Stop buying their products. Stop using services. Maybe... 3-5 years, if sales decline enough, they'll 'listen' to the 'feedback' of people leaving the ecosystem and ... ask what you want, and deliver it another couple years later. Maybe.

Not trying to be a troll or sarcastic, but there's really no way to get that sort of feedback to a company of Apple's size. Or, at least, there's really no way for individuals or small groups to get any impactful feedback to them.

I had a set of AirPods. I bought the AppleCare - which I rarely do. In a 2 year period I had 5 'fixes'. 5 replacements. In 2 years. PERHAPS having those sorts of metrics for them to review - an actual cost to their bottom line - wakes someone up to address quality issues. But... what do you do about the decline and usability in a settings panel? Stop using the settings panel? That'll show 'em! :/

I'm sure they're busy training an AI to do support for them. Which, trained on the past issues, will just drop all feedback, randomly ignore bugs and issues for years, silently fixing some and not others according to no discernable criteria, and generally not communicating anything.

Well not by filing radars, that’s for sure. Infiltrate to a senior vp level, then take charge?

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