The reality is that the dealership model is a scam and ICE car are going to have a lot less demand in 10 years. Maybe GM and Toyota can pivot into that world, but it is not guaranteed at all.
Ford has the Mustang and the Lightning.
I’ve seen all of these on the roads recently. As many, if not more than I see Teslas. I am not in California where Tesla probably has a locational advantage due to the infrastructure being better for EVs.
Thinking Tesla is the only company investing in electric is insane. GM and Ford’s body panel alignment embarrasses these Teslas too.
It's not hard to see what competition is going to do to Tesla's marketshare in the US once all those models are introduced here.
But in neighboring Norway you'd find a ton of Teslas, when before Tesla an American made car would be a very strange sight there (Ford excepted, but not the USA versions of Ford).
However, Tesla is down to a 10% market-share in Norway as well, so they completely squandered their first-mover advantage there as well. Apparently the "dinosaurs" managed to ramp up and pivot quite nicely despite what everyone said.
One of the things that has been at the back of my mind is this: when the CEO of a large company is selling large volumes of stock they know more than anybody what is at stake. A CEO that has an optimistic outlook about the company they run will buy stock, not sell it. Elon has been selling across a 50% drop as though it makes no difference.
Ironic given how much they benefited from exporting pollution to the rest of the planet.
pro tip: they lie, thats what desperate car companies do.
For the record, I don’t tell Fords. If you’re referring to the inability to get one… yeah, it’s extremely popular.
Chevy is lying about the price same way Ford was. Nobody bought Lightning at msrp other than brand advocates and media personalities (certain youtubers magically get allocated unobtanium cars skipping queue and sticker price).
Between small inventory and dealer premiums those halo cars are just PR stunts.
recalled for burning down houses
>Ford has the Mustang and the Lightning.
truck with range going down to less than 30-40% if its slightly cold or if you tow an empty trailer
Until you have to use Electrify America. Good luck with that!
I think hybrid will be in peak demand in 10 years. Electric doesn’t work well for anyone that doesn’t have a house/residential charging.
Maybe. Probably not. With a large region of the US losing power during a cold blast because TVA couldn't keep up across multiple power distribution areas, I wouldn't expect to see people jumping in on that bargain. When you need it, your electric car will be significantly less useful in a crisis. States are also beginning to raise registration fees significantly to make up for the lack of gas tax revenue.
It's really frustrating.
Having the manufacturer own the "gas stations" in a printer-ink business model might be worse.
For fast charging on road trips, Teslas can get CCS adapters and charge at competing stations. (Although considering the current state of Electrify America, I don't know why anyone would do that.) Also Tesla is starting to open their chargers to non-Teslas. Charging is becoming a commodity. The main advantages of the Supercharger network are reliability and integration with the car's built-in trip planning. In the long term, Tesla's Superchargers will be like Apple's AirPods: compatible with pretty much everything, but nicer for those who use the company's other products.
Essentially they can use the patents if they accept something stronger than patents: no copying Tesla's unpatented designs or they can go back and get you for the patent violation in perpetuity (or statute of limitations).
what we got is a truck that no one knows its weights so you can't tell how much it can move in cargo, that costs two times more to operate with a very limited range unless you want to destroy your batteries really quickly but hey they did engineer the best phone charger for it....
I got that "electricity is 0.50" is a claim not backed up by reality.
I can't charge at work. I can't even plug in a block heater. I imagine most folks everywhere can't charge at work.
Plus, charging at home depends heavily on the ownership of a garage. For one, power sockets (let alone charging stations) are pretty rare at most dense housing. Secondly, charging cables contain enough copper that they are rich targets for thieves.
Currently, most apartment owners are not interested in providing charging stations, even if their tenants want them. The cost of putting them in and maintaining them is too high to justify it. Or the laziness quota, either/or.
In most states with high housing costs (such as California), landlords are required to let tenants install EV charging stations.[1] Also there are companies such as ChargePoint that go around to apartment complexes and sell them charging stations. The stations bring the apartment complex revenue and attract higher-end tenants.
I think the concerns about charging are overrated. Yes, some landlords will drag their feet, but that's true for all tech adoption. I'm sure the same thing happened with cable TV, telephone lines, and dishwashers. The fancy places adopt the new thing first, then the average places, and finally the low-end places.
1. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...
And charging cable theft is like bike theft. Combine exceptionally low risk with a fairly high reward, and it will happen everywhere, no matter how “low” of a crime area you’re in. A quick application of bolt cutters nets them hundreds of dollars, and may cost the owner thousands, depending on the250 per battery. Now imagine this applied to charging cables with their excess of copper and data lines and occasionally cooling jackets.
Downplay the problems as you like, but they are problems.
Stealing a charging cable is extremely high risk. A thief would be dealing with lethal currents. Also almost every EV has a phone app that notifies the owner if charging is interrupted. If you're home you'll almost certainly be able confront the thief. If it's a Tesla, sentry mode means you'll also have camera footage of the thief.
If you're worried about thieves, you should get an EV. Combustion vehicles have catalytic converters. In terms of risk-reward they are much juicier targets than charging cables. I don't know a single EV owner who has had their cable stolen. I know plenty of people who have had their catalytic converters stolen. (Yes, far fewer people have EVs, but you'd think I'd have heard of it happening at least once by now, especially in the Portland area.) EVs don't have cats, and they're basically rolling iPhones that record their surroundings, so they're less likely to be messed with.
This stuff can add up fast if you don’t already have capacity.
Tesla didn't break 1m last year btw, and IDK what their numbers will be this year - but on track to be a little higher, but not the growth they have had to date. Definitely slowing down considerably.