> they tend to call what others call “overengineering” a “scalable clean architecture”.

I’m not sure what this means or what you’re referring to. It seems the premise of your argument is that Java is bad and over engineering, and anyone who disagrees is fundamentally misinformed, bias, and wrong.

With your argument, it’s actually impossible to have any kind of debate or constructive discussion because the premise is the other biased and stupid. You went from attacking the tech to actually attacking the people.