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We should also shut down all the US-based media in Europe then, for the exact same reason.

Who is we? Are you European?

Twitter, FB and Google have been banned in China, so banning US companies isn’t a new concept. Whether Europe join that is up to European countries. They haven’t shared your opinions so far. Maybe they value the relationship with the US? Especially after seeing Russia’s “special operation” in Ukraine

US companies effectively have been "banned" in EUrope since 2015 for this exact reason :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems#Schrems_I

If you haven't noticed, Europe has passed laws making it nearly impossible for American (and only American) tech companies to operate there.

I would probably be less inclined to want TikTok banned if China were in the midst of saving my entire continent from an unhinged, marauding neighbor.

Not true, American companies like Google are still the de facto monopolies in Europe.

You might also check out how China is draining Russian economy - instead of focusing on making an appearance of doing so. But yeah, this is one aspect where I do agree. I’m really happy to see USA being the good guys again.

They are still operating illegally in the EU. Hard to say whether law enforcement will start to (seriously) wake up, whether denial will make the EU and the US come to an agreement, or whether the US will stop treating non-citizens like a police state (haha, fat chance).

A Chinese company operates in the US, obeys local laws while doing the same sketchy things that home-grown companies do all the time and it's a 'national security issue'.

US companies operating in the EU are expected to follow local laws and ... this is unfair because the US is pursuing its own narrow internal interests in Ukraine, like it always does, and Europeans are supposed to be grateful?

Because TikTok is a Chinese company? There is precedence of American companies not allowed to operate in China. Why pretend to be surprise?

> this is unfair because the US is pursuing its own narrow internal interests in Ukraine

So narrow that Ukraine president decided to come visit to rally support?

>There is precedence of American companies not allowed to operate in China.

Not true. They can operate, they just need to obey the law. Same way other companies need to obey American laws to operate in US, eg enforcing copyright or providing Lawful Interception mechanisms.

Last I checked, it's not so much that Google wasn't allowed to operate, it's that they didn't want to have to follow the rules (and for good reason) ?

Apple (at least) seems to have managed to strike some kind of a deal ?

Trade is mutual. No way in hell it’s mutual right now wrt how social media and other businesses from America operate in China. It’s fair and square to boot TikTok.

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