Absolutely no one will take this seriously including the person who wrote it but they will be able to put it on their performance review that they removed exclusive language from Stanford web pages.
Absolutely no one will take this seriously including the person who wrote it but they will be able to put it on their performance review that they removed exclusive language from Stanford web pages.
Words like whitelist and blacklist have been banned by woke theater fiat at the bigco I work at, although I have seen no evidence they actually have anything to do with racism. I suspect our banned words list has a lot of overlap with Stanford's.
Rabblerousers like to rabblerouse, and nobody wants to be the voice of reason when the people who decide your paycheck make stupid political decisions.
In particular, this idea that giving a negative connotation to the color black and darkness in general, and a positive connotation to the color white and lightness in general, implies some kid of racial bias is absurd, ahistorical, and frankly disturbing (since it creates controversy retroactively out of nothing).
It's not even that I mind adjusting my language if people object to it; but there's a world of difference between "I really don't like it when you use the phrase [...]" and "you're being racist when you use the phrase [...]".
This is true, but also probably an indication that the term "whitelist" isn't as universally understood [by developers] as the "how dare you suggest using allowlist!" crowd suggest...
Context: I am from a place where both darker-colored people and lighter-colored people exist. Here in my country, lighter-colored people are considered better than darker-colored people. I am a darker-skinned person.
The thing I don't understand is, even if it had something to do with slavery, why is that harmlful?
However, the arguments for this renaming are absurd, and i think that absolutely matters.
And note that I actually think renouncing the use of master/slave in favor of primary/secondary or something similar is actually warranted. But extending this to master branch, when many of the people doing the change had a Master of Science title probably, is annoying and arbitrary.
Perhaps not, but every year this rhetoric grows more and more aggressive - and thanks to social media - is now leaking into our everyday vernacular.
At what point do we say “this is enough” rather than hand-waving it away as yet another excess of academia?
That point will never happen, because those who stand up will be righteously cut down. An acquaintance is seeking a faculty position and they are being asked ideologically filtering questions in interviews, with the pretty overt suggestion that the wrong answer to any would disqualify them as a candidate.
There will never be enough, because "enough" has not been defined. They have no interest in doing so. Even if they did, the "end goal" would never be reached, because they have too much of a seated interest in preserving their grievances.
Particularly stuff like this, they are demarcating an in-group and an out group. The primary reason people come up with this sort of silly list of magic words is to start discriminating against the out-group.
It's not that I'm dismissing the possibility of sinister cultural signifiers. It's just this one attempt to establish them inorganically seems to me like it will obviously fail.
I actually subscribe to the idea that the words of choice can be harmful but this practice of constantly trying hard find words to ban is ridiculous. When the culture evolves and certain words start hurting people, sure let's be more careful about it. No need for an institutional directive for word, people themselves change their language as the culture changes.
At current stage it definitely feels like someone who doesn't have something to do invents a job.
In the end it will be all self correcting. Those woke universities reputation is melting like ice cream in the sun. I remember Brian Armstrong mentioning in an interview that he starts to see companies adding basic skill tests in their recrutment as they don't really trust those universities selection process anymore. I certainly lost any respect for those universities, and I graduated from one of those.
I wonder. Could be that they don't want to be ostracised.
This happens in companies as well. In mine, we have a similar list of words to avoid. I'm pretty sure 95% of my colleagues think it's bullshit but we never discuss it openly. Mostly it's a thing from the US youth, some of them seem to be actively tracking anything that could be remotely considered unfair to minorities and are very vocal about it.
If this kind of thinking is tolerated without pushback, it will become the default. Advocates of this thinking are dedicated radicals who care more about implementing it than most people like you (not meaning offense) who would just chuckle and do nothing, thinking it is silly.
This is Stanford University. This is a prestigious engineering university, not UMass Amherst.
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edit to add: The thing that absolutists don't appreciate, whether they are far-woke speech warriors like this submission, or far-right conservatives worried about any shift in the status-quo, is that *there is a line, somewhere in the middle, for all things*. We need to be thoughtful about some speech, but this list is the logical extreme of it. We need to understand systemic racism exists in the US, but we don't need to make every single aspect of society revolve around race. We need to support the poor and the uneducated and the unemployed more than we do today, but we don't need to give them blank checks or have completely open borders.
In American discussion today, there seems to be little room for nuance like this, for "practical lines" like this, because each side either wants or is afraid of an idea being taken to its logical extreme.
It is up to people who agree with this to understand that there is a line, and as such, one needs to *hold that line*. Radicals will try to push it too far, and we need to stop them vocally. "c"onservatives will try never to move the line, and we need to make them budge.
It is not feasible to "just ignore" any large organization looking to move the line too far. It has to be actively challenged.
It will, like banning "master" repositories, and other examples have already happened.
Quoting Orwell in all irony: "It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words."
That is, the attitudes of the staff are downstream of the students.
This is also reinforced by the fact that (entry-level) staff at universities are often recent humanities graduates from that university.
But git branch names now say "main".
But thanks for supporting the people who ruined years of muscle memory for typing "git push origin master" over imagined and non-existent harms.
The amount of time people have spent on this change fixing broken tools and workflows makes it a stupid change all by itself.
90% of HN seem to think banning these words are at best silly, yet seem to be ambivalent about stopping it.
These aren't laws of nature other people just like you made these rules.
So apparently a Stanford M.S., M.A. or M.F.A. degree may be said to denote mastery of a subject, but its holder cannot claim to have mastered the subject. So many ways to get it wrong...
For some early examples, see: the Iliad
In Canada, the professional regulators who control whether you're allowed to to call yourself an engineer and whether your company is allowed to do engineering, are also making this kind of thing mandatory. They are considering it a part of workplace safety, akin to preventing oil spills and lethal accidents: an engineer's top priority, lest they lose their license.
Then again, the country has taxpayer funded university positions reserved for minority candidates (because apparently that's legal over there?).
Obvious nonsense, and the person who she complimented agreed. But when an administrator doesn't like someone, and needs to find a reason to cause them problems, this sort of list is a very useful tool. Maybe you don't even have to say it - "Professor X was found in repeated violation of our racial safety standards, and we just can't have racist staff".
I'll add that I don't have an issue with removing racist/bigoted language - but this list largely consists of obvious slurs that nobody needs a ruleset to avoid, or mundane words where no person would even begin to feel racist/offended outside of an administrator finding excuses to make more rules.
next thing you know, master is now main, blacklist and whitelist are allowlist and denylist, and so on
No other reason is needed, but "principle" is being violated here. Bad ideas need to be pushed back on. I think that's true whether or not rules achieve "de facto" status, because a society's dysfunction is proportional to the degree it that lets bad rules slide "because they'll never be enforced". In this case these bad rules lay bare an ignorant and bigoted world-view that is fundamentally anti-human. It is teaching students and teachers all the wrong lessons, and ironically is not even helping the people it's claiming to want to help. It is pure and overt thought policing and Stanford, and anyone who cares about the school and its legacy, needs to clean house yesterday.
But the secretive reporting system will make people paranoid and when dealing with administration commissars and academic boards, I imagine the rules will be used to weed out opponents and anyone they believe does not comply with their goals.
And yes it is stupid. There are even words I am surprised they did not include like "fat". Oops, I used the word stupid.
1300+ comments on something that has hardly anything to do with technology. Really?
To me, this is a dumb and actually kind of funny list, due to some ridiculous notions (e.g. "stand up meeting" is ablelist?) that seem poorly put together with zero thought for context. It's as if someone got an assignment to put this together and tried to really, really stretch any possible connection they could into this. Like you said, a "bullshit time-consuming initiative".
That's all it is. I don't get why people are paying attention to it. It's not worth much thought at all.
And Stanford has a certain amount of cachet, or influence, or reach, or whatever, even into tech circles and tech companies. So this nonsense may be coming soon to the company you or I work at. So, yeah, we care. We take it seriously, because it impacts us.
Misspelling turf wars as "terf" while writing about wokism is just too funny a coincidence to not mention.