It breaks reddit rules probably - against doxxing and publishing private information of individuals. My bet is that it will get banned very soon.
(This isn't to defended Musk, quite the contrary given he tweeted a number plate).
Google chooses to blur it. I don't think they're legally obligated to.
we track planes for safety reasons. when a plane disappear from the radar, it's a big deal. an educated guess why cars aren't tracked is privacy and there are too many.
but in a world where cars are going to be electric, these problems might go away.
What I’ve since learned however is that tracking his jet requires a combination of public and private information. He’s part of a privacy scheme which routinely changes the plane’s identifier: https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/160385752457453...
At that point, I think the argument that it’s doxxing is justified to some extent.
My understanding is that he _stopped_ using this service and now his plane broadcasts the same tail number all the time.
Ultimately planes are tracked and the information made public. If you’re concerned about privacy, travel by different means.
Where is your understanding coming from?
Elon Musk himself confirmed 2 days ago that he is using that privacy scheme: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603803508087537665
> https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1603802439232241665
It looks like he might be enrolled but not actively using it, or using it wrong according to the above tweet.
It is publicly available information.
The information is publicly available because it is mandated to be as a condition of flying. Leaked private information is obviously different.
This is just a case of a billionaire with a god complex wanting to have his cake and eat it too.
No, it's not.
Elon's jet receives a private temporary aircraft identifier unconnected to its owner every month, because it is subscribed to this program: https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/privacy
This government program was specifically designed to hide the link between an aircraft identifier and the owner of the aircraft.
If the link between Elon Musk and the aircraft identifier he flies with was meant to be publicly available, why does this program exist in the first place?
If I were to put together a badly implemented privacy program that people can trivially circumvent without breaking the law, who should be blamed when people do exactly that?
Me, or the people doing the trivial yet legal circumvention?
Wrong. None of Musk's planes are part of the PIA program: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34037524 as evident by any ads-b map out there.
There is plenty of information in public records like people's addresses that are released legitimately. An address is enough information to SWAT someone.
Nope. A lot of it comes from public sources, such as property taxes, vehicle registrations, court records...
It's still doxxing.
Virtually all doxxing is derived from public records.
What’s public is how each plane moves. What’s not is which one of these planes is Musk’s.
This is not "hacking". This is information derived from publicly available information, presumably a quite trivial inference. If it is public information that x=2 and y=3, then x+y=5 isn't suddenly private information, just because it requires a trivial inference.
Just because it’s easy to uncover doesn’t mean it’s fine to go off and broadcast it. That’s doxxing.
It’s only the web browser that hides that stuff.
If a later change to Chrome makes EXIF data easily viewable is then a privacy concern?
It’s not a trivial inference.
But it's not public information by law. It's private information:
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/privacy
The aircraft tracking data itself is public, but what's not public is the information which links the temporary aircraft identifier to its owner when the owner is using that privacy program, which is the case for Elon: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603803508087537665