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Previously "The Rise and Fall of Commercial Smalltalk (2020)"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29223880

From my point of view, having IBM fully pivot from Smalltalk into Java was one of the biggest reasons, and the millions that Sun pumped into having the JDK available as free beer.

On OS/2, SOM (much better COM like API), also had support for Smalltalk besides C and C++, effectively giving Smalltalk a role in OS/2, similar to VB and later .NET on Windows.

Smalltalk/V from the late 1980s was quite cheap, as I recall.

Yes that was the one I used and was the one that I meant by saying "took over the ones tuned for Windows."

I think ParcPlace took it over and replaced it by the expensive one which was OS independent and not tuned to Windows.

In 1995 Digitalk already charged a few thousands bucks for VisualSmalltalk...

For example

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32441206