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> I guess the main point of this library is to use HTML as the protocol payload between serve and client, instead of JSON

HTTP is named Hypertext Transfer Protocol after all. Exchanging schema-less JSONs is conceptually pretty lame. It's plain old RPC architecture. That's why we end up needing to write API docs to line up the frontend and backend, or otherwise inspect backend code to figure out what's being handed over.

Browsers are built to understand HTML. Whereas in the modern world we largely ignore that and write double the code we'd have to write otherwise passing arbitrary messages and it introduces a whole new set of problems making sure those codebases line up properly. Whereas HTML produced by the backend (properly) contains all the information someone could need.

This hits the nail on the head so hard that reading it feels like waking up from a bad dream.

> Browsers are built to understand HTML. Whereas in the modern world we largely ignore that and write double the code we'd have to write otherwise passing arbitrary messages and it introduces a whole new set of problems making sure those codebases line up properly.

This belongs in a manifesto. Put it on a shirt and I'll gladly wear it

yep, perfect example is the history API. People created the problem that the history API fixes by doing things they shouldn't have been doing in the first place.

You see it all the time in software dev.

This answer is exactly correct. You must really think about how this dramatically makes developing these types of applications simpler by a magnitude. You are literally killing significant complexity that causes time, effort, and bugs. And, no, this is not merely shifting the problems back to the server-side. This is how HTML should have evolved in the first place.

This is the philosophy I had when I coded Zedtopia.

Clean Html5 and css3 should achieve everything. Only use JS for specific interactivity.

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