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Sure, if you ignore Dropwizard and tons of other less popular java frameworks out there.

Maybe I am missing something but Dropwizard is not a framework on its own but instead of collection of external and independently developed libraries

Maybe you are? Yes, it integrates existing frameworks and libraries. In fact, the home page says "Dropwizard is a Java framework for developing ops-friendly, high-performance, RESTful web services."

While I would love to argue whether DropWizard is a framework or not there is no need for that.

Just go to google trends and compare Spring and Dropwizard. Or look at https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/devecosystem-2021/java/. Dropwizard doesn't even appear in the list of web frameworks.

I mean, if you still believe that Java has as many frameworks as Javascript has (and had in the past) there is nothing I can say that will convince you.

I've been using Java on and off since 1996. It absolutely has had a ton of frameworks over the years. Yes, I realize many of them are niche or no longer in use, but that doesn't mean there isn't a legacy application where you have to maintain 10 or 20 year old garbage.

FYI, I despise both J2EE and Spring. (Maybe Spring Boot is okay.)

Spring Boot is recapitulating the worst parts of old (like, 3.0-era) Spring. It's the biggest step backwards in programming history since... I actually can't think of anything worse.

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