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A code monkey is not selling their programming skill to per employer, person is trading hours spent doing work-related tasks for money. Once the agreed amount of hours has been filled person can do whatever person want (without reasonable bounds, of course) and does not have to think about per work. If per employer wants per not to program outside of work, per employer could offer a contract stipulating that, but I would expect person to seek a rather sizeable remuneration afore accepting such an offer.

My employer pays me to work 37.5 hours a week. An excessive amount of hours beyond that would raise potential legal issues, as there are limits on how much overtime is allowed.

And yes, people do things for fun, too, not just for money.

> You should not be programming outside of that

I shouldn't do what I like because what? Because bowsamic doesn't like it?

I don't think it's very respectful to your boss

I think I speak for essentially everyone here when I say, "fk this guy's boss". Old mate here in this thread slacks off or 2 days, his boss is already very respectfully thinking of firing him.

It's not 1920. The modern middle manager has more invested in his fantasy football league than his direct reports -- and by some magnitude. Grow up.

Are you serious? If anything, the boss should be happy someone is improving their skills on their spare time instead of learning everything on the job.

Could you explain how things that I do in my free time is disrespectful to my boss?

I'm assuming that was missing a '/s'?

No? Why did you interpret it as sarcasm? If you explain then perhaps you could help me understand

Many people like to work on hobby projects, and hobby is usually done at home or somewhere else than work.

It's also not recommended working on personal stuff with work's hardware and means, you risk losing your hobby projects to your company.

And during work time, you are supposed to work on things the company told you to do, not personal stuff. If you are planning to do extra hours for that, why should it matter where you do it?

Your comment probably seems non intuitive to many of us for all these reasons.

I don't really understand, but that's okay

https://justforfunnoreally.dev

If I'm a cook, I should not cook outside of the restaurant ever?

If you use open source at home, eventually you'll want to improve it by doing programming at home.

I did not understand this viewpoint until I started to program for a living.

So, don't worry about the downvotes. They will understand someday.

You are assuming everyone should reach your conclusion. Some of us have been programming for a living for years and still like programming outside work. Because for instance you get to build whatever you want under whatever condition you like.

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