We’re not making the world a better place here, folks. Good effort, but no. Let’s stop now.
We’re not making the world a better place here, folks. Good effort, but no. Let’s stop now.
Kitchen knives are not required for life, but they enable murder.
I find cheerleading really unnecessary, but it leads to 20K injuries amongst adolescents every year. Why is nobody stopping this?
Bitcoin was created partly as a reaction to public funding of private cronies (see the genesis block coinbase). If the national currency is debased like this, at the expense of the general public, clearly the government is not doing its job.
Bitcoin makes it so that the supply is well-known in advance, and only the owners can spend the currency.
Give me a digital payment option without kyc or a risk of "assets are frozen because ____ gov said so" then we'll talk.
As an adult, take responsibility for the consequences of the risks you take. If it isn't crypto the it is the race tracks or lottery. High risk, high reward and you knew that getting into it! No one forces you or tricks you into using crypto.
Dude, most anything in violation of KYC is sketch.
I don't understand the illegal immigrant comment. Please do explain that if you like.
And I have paid for cars and expensive things in cash myself because I value my privacy.
If crypto is banned and kyc and cash restrictions take place I will be forced to work with shady people and only hope they cause more harm to this messed up society that wants to take my liberty away. I would gladly fight in or support civil wars for this cause.
Since the dawn of civilization, it has been a right of a free person to own what they want and barter it or exchange currency for some item.
The governmemt does not get to understand or track what sources I get money from. Before the internet, no government cared so long as we paid taxes on all our income.
Find another way to prevent "shady" stuff which fyi will not be deterred one bit, criminals would trade rocks as currency backed by a bigger criminal before letting this bullshit stop them. It's my unaluenable right to not be forced to do business or hand my earnings by default to a third party company be it banking or insurance. May society burn before that happens.
Haha, you’re a funny guy. This thinking is fantasy. People can’t regulate themselves.
Keep thinking this though if you are that delusional.
Criticism of our existing financial systems is valid but it’s a different topic, it does make society happen and has tremendous value.
Crypto has negative value. It undermines society, and it actively facilitates crime.
Attempting to invoke the thankfully largely-discarded concept of "whataboutism" is actually just a kind of backhanded ad hominem used to avoid making a real argument and instead try to make people "look the other way".
Criticism of the existing financial system in the context of discussing a proposed replacement for it is about as related a discussion as possible.
Simply stating that all crypto is bad/criminal adds nothing of value to the discussion.
The truth is that there are (as there generally is with new technologies), useful and practical purposes to which they are applied. Indeed, the majority instances so far of "crypto" having caused harm has actually been the result of an ordinary centralised trust-based fraud donning the label "crypto" to draw in victims to loot.
The #1 mantra of crypto has always been "not your keys, not your coins". Had it been followed, instead of perverted into its opposite and mislabelled "crypto", the most heinous of these scams would not have been enabled.
The thing most actively facilitating crime and fraud in "crypto" lately is the profoundly misguided belief that giving your money to someone you've never met you saw on TV is safer than keeping it in your own wallet.
Crypto is not to blame for that belief, it was invented to provide an alternative.
>Attempting to invoke the thankfully largely-discarded concept of "whataboutism" is actually just a kind of backhanded ad hominem used to avoid making a real argument and instead try to make people "look the other way".
Moments of clarity like this are one of the main reasons I keep coming back to this place. :D
You can question the relevance of a comparison without questioning the integrity of the person bringing it up: say it's off-topic and explain why.
More often than not, accusations of "whataboutery" are used to avoid having to explain why something isn't relevant and thus avoid addressing whatever point is being made. I'd go as far as to say it's why the word even exists.
"EThe Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"
The financial system is explicitly on topic when discussing Crypto Currency.
No, the financial system is the reason Bitcoin was created: state and banks are cooperating to debase the national currency.
Crypto undermines tyranny, not society.
In all my tears of living I’ve never had a conversation where someone used the word tyranny and banking in the same sentence.
Average joe just wants their assets insured and kept in a safe place.
"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws." - Mayer Amschel Rothschild