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People still use PHP? Let this horrible language die already. It's banned internally at AMZN for a reason

PHP has been pretty good for a long time now. PHP 7 was released in 2015. It's a vibrant and living language that now has a very nice type system and a super-fast JIT. Most of what people hate about PHP is from PHP 4, even 5.6 was pretty solid. Let this horrible meme that PHP sucks die.

It's not a meme, it's backed by empirical data. It's banned for security reasons internally at AMZN, not without due diligence

Is C banned then too? And the use of npm?

again, there were definitely huge problems with PHP prior to 5.6 and 7, but the flaws in the language that made it a security nightmare have been gone for about 10 years (at least). Now the main problem is that it's still used as a dynamically typed language with some type coercion and juggling that can lead to unexpected behavior.

But you can use strict_types! With strict types, PHP 8+ is a very nice language.

You say it like some internal decision of some unnamed nobody at "AMZN" is some standard of excellence, or whatever.

more like the entirety of the company (Amazon + AWS) following the guidance of an unnamed "nobody" is, in fact, a standard of excellence :)

I challenge you to find PHP deployed in production in any Amazon service

That's irrelevant to anyone not working at Amazon.

I will SSH into amazon and check right now.

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