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> Most of the people I saw get successful were people were people doing like... extra stuff outside of the classes.

Ironically this is not that different from my university experience.

Not ironically at all! If someone expects to attend programming classes (or any classes for that matter), not do any extra work and as a result to become a programmer, that someone will have a rude awakening. Or as one of my university professors said "Attempt to learn this subject by just listening these classes is equivalent to attemting to become a gymnast by watching Olympics on TV".

Mine too actually.

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