On the other hand, I vividly remember being told I would win the Darwin award for not taking an mRNA vaccine. If the vaccines are so great, why do non-covid excess deaths continue to rise while the media ignores it? [1] Until there is a reasonable explanation for these deaths, any novel therapy/treatment/vaccine should be taken off the market.
Surely that depends what they’re taking it for, no?
Got worms? Take a de-wormer. Don’t have worms, but do have a viral infection, and this is all you’re taking? Probably best avoid the thing with lots of well know unpleasant side-effects, even if they’re not generally lethal, as it has no benefit.
On large overdoses — which I don't normally count but which would be necessary for actually inhibiting the covid virus because even in vitro that only happened at 35x the maximum FDA-approved dosage — central nervous system depression, ataxia, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension, decreased level of consciousness, confusion, blurred vision, visual hallucinations, loss of coordination and balance, seizures, coma, and death.
(But apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?)
Safe dose: mildly unpleasant, and also ineffective.
Effective dose (in a petri dish): very unpleasant and possibly lethal.
As for evidence the vaccine caused medical problems, it already exists. The CDC tried to block the v-safe data from being released.[2] It shows overwhelming safety signals which the public should know about to have informed consent.
[1] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...
[2] https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/v-safe-part-1-after-464-day...
"""Although peak viral load did not differ by vaccination status or variant type, …. Fully vaccinated individuals with delta variant infection had a faster (posterior probability >0·84) mean rate of viral load decline (0·95 log10 copies per mL per day) than did unvaccinated individuals with pre-alpha (0·69), alpha (0·82), or delta (0·79) variant infections."""
Yes vaccinated with pre-alpha, alpha, and delta have faster viral clearance... but what about Omicron which is 99% of cases now? Maybe the study was done too early, but the results are very bad for vaccinated with Omicron.
"In other words: out of 100 boosted persons who catch Covid, 31 — or one-third — will be still carrying LIVE VIRUS on Day 10. Out of 100 unvaccinated persons, only 6 would test positive on Day 10 — over five TIMES fewer people." [1]
So even if you justified treating unvaccinated differently due to viral clearance (completely disregarding that prior infection, age or weight has much more influence), eventually you'd be wrong using that metric anyway.
[1] https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/study-boosted-people-slowe...
There was a paper going around not too long ago whose headline result showed there was only a mild decrease in infectiousness, something like 24% immediately after vaccination, which some thought was a gotcha all by itself but (a) that is certainly better than nothing, and (b) it was based on prisoners who shared a cell, so a fairly extreme case of proximity and duration anyway.
Google hit #1: https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/coronavirus-2-deaths-lin...
studies that used it properly as a prophylactic show around a 90% reduction in mortality and around 50% reduction in infection rate. All the studies claiming it didn't work used it post-infection which even the proponents of ivermectin claimed wouldn't work
https://www.cureus.com/articles/111851-regular-use-of-iverme...
here's the main study used to claim it doesn't work- note the participants are already confirmed to have covid so the study is already worthless and essentially done in bad faith
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2797483
and here's another doing the same thing
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2115869
not saying Ivermectin is some miracle drug like many, but simply downplaying it as "horse medicine" is just as bad
If you could could point to evidence that those pushing ivermectin during the height of the pandemic and the hospital crush were advocating low/moderate prophylactic use I would be grateful.