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You won't be able to tell when they're not following the rules.

We regulate foreign companies that do business in the US in other markets, what makes this one special?

If we actually care about surveillance by App, we have to make rules that can prevent that including requiring levels of access and transparency to enforce those rules.

Of course, there is little appetite for making those rules... But that doesn't mean that such rules are impossible.

Well the FBI seems able to tell, or else why are they alleging it poses a national security concern?

I think it's more of a "China has been known to conduct mass espionage/monitoring of its citizens and abroad. Given that known fact, TikTok poses a concern." Don't think there's hard proof they are doing nefarious things via TikTok.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/10/20/tik...

> A China-based team at TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, planned to use the TikTok app to monitor the personal location of some specific American citizens, according to materials reviewed by Forbes.

We won't be able to tell when they're not following the rules that are not important enough to impose on domestic companies?

Just stop moving the goalposts while discussing and people might take you more seriously

Err, pretty sure that was the entire premise of my post -- that you wouldn't be able to tell when they're not complying unless you audit and sign all their code before distribution.

This seems like an argument no Chinese software on American devices, what makes the difference?

No, it's the opposite argument, that we SHOULDN'T do that because one it's impractical, and two if they actually did it, the solution (mass government wiretapping and auditing and pre-censorship of all "foreign" apps) would be worse than the problem it's trying to solve (TikTok not playing nice).

I'm no fan of the CCP, but I'd take Chinese propaganda over American censorship any day.

...they haven't moved any goalposts...

You need to work on your reading comprehension.

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