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Comment by PaulHoule | Hacker News Reader

HN is a respite from those awful cookie banners, that's something.

Dark pattern banners I call them. One day I clicked the 'more options' button on a foreign website and it was a list of over 1000 different third parties listed each with their own toggle.

Use Firefox's built in privacy blocking tools as a bare minimum.

Personally, I use uBlock, the built in privacy list, and most crucially: Cookie AutoDelete.

I have it set such that if I unload a domain for 30 minutes, all of its cookies are deleted. The end result is that I have something that works decently, while preserving history and passwords.

That's actually how it's supposed to work. Only the most recent ruling, and it was Google specific, forced them to add "Reject all" button.

afaik the law says rejecting all should be as easy as accepting all, which is google got the ruling they did, even having to click "more options" before "reject all" is against the letter of the law, though I don't know that that one will ever actually be enforced.

afaik technicalities like this can be adjusted by member states and it's country specific. EU court overruled Google case for whole EU.

broken as designed.

And those banners aren't even mandatory. Someone did it without learning the actual law and almost everybody does that.

They are mandatory if by browsing a website your data ends up in a 3rd party, which means almost all websites.

No, banner isn't mandatory. Information is mandatory. I don't remember exact page now but it was some govt page here in Poland that had info about cookies in page footer, and it was also ok

It's only 'mandatory' (see comment below) if they (whether the primary operator or the subcontractor) is doing things that aren't strictly for functionality.

The problem is that while the EU hopes that disclosures are designed to introduce friction to make the site more privacy-friendly... let's say that money is still a strong motivator for a lot of websites. I even spotted cookie prompts that were essentially that "close door" button on lifts.

Advertising agencies offer to install these banners to get higher bids from advertisers. Webmasters have a choice. Most choose money.

Why would HN need to follow rules from EU or China? This OP must be kidding. What about following Cameroon law? What makes EU more important? What if they conflict? Pass all the laws you want to in Bolivia for PII, HN should just ignore it. No they shouldn't hand all our data to Pakistan to abide by their laws either.

CCPA is not from China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Consumer_Privacy_Ac...

Sorry I was referring to GDPR

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