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>> Adjusting mirrors takes 3 menu clicks, don't even think of doing it while driving.

Wow, that's horrible! While I set my mirrors initially while parked, I often find the need to make fine adjustments while driving (in low-stress situations).

Having to use a 3-layer-deep menu for that —on the center console, no less— is just a complete dealbreaker.

Thank you for posting that! Makes my decision tree easier and another key item to check in evaluating new cars.

EDIT: "fine adjustments" => "fine"

Regarding climate, I've found this really depends on how much you like auto. I'm fine with auto most of the time, so I haven't had an issue. Even the auto seat warmers actually work pretty well for me. They barely get warm and then turn off on their own, which is really what I prefer.

Also, you can put the seat warmer icon on the bottom bar, so its just one tap to toggle off/levels 1-3/auto.

I'm not sure what you mean about the map. Every car that I've used has that to the right in a similar position. The tesla layout seems fine to me.

The glovebox is my biggest annoyance, in general. I wish there was a button somewhere.

> E.g. Adjusting mirrors takes 3 menu clicks, don't even think of doing it while driving.

20 years ago I was taught that mirrors should have already been adjusted by the time you turn the key. Has this changed? Why would you ever need to adjust the mirrors while driving?

> it clears all your other settings and goes to "auto",

No it doesn't

> Seat warmer? 2+ clicks on center console

It's over click. It's still awful because you have to look at the screen, but it's still only 1 click. There is no reason to lie, it's still terrible.

> Map? You're practically looking at the passenger glove box to see it.

Unless you display is overlapping the glove box somehow, this is not the case.

> Why would you ever need to adjust the mirrors while driving?

I find it hard to get a really good setting on my mirrors unless I'm driving (I do at least only mess with it on slow roads with no one around).

Yeah, that and owners will save the mirror positions to their profile. I've never found this aspect annoying, tbh.

I recently watched a youtube video where a guy rented a Tesla and was frustrated that he needed to dig through touchscreen menus to open the glove box. Apparently it did not have a release latch.

The Model 3/Y are not good rental cars. They're fantastic cars IMO but they take some time to get accustom to, that's not something you want in a rental car.

To open the glove box requires 2 screen presses or activating the voice controls. On the one hand it's an uncommonly used feature, I think I've opened mine once this year. On the other hand it's rather silly that there isn't a button or sensor to allow you to open it physically.

Consider that my Model 3 has a sensor that detects if I close the center console improperly and displays a message on screen, same with the frunk. I would gladly replace one of those sensors for one that detects me groping the glovebox door.

The only upside to all the lack of buttons and switches is security. You cannot open the glove box, trunk, drink, or the vehicle without your phone or car key card.

I don't know that it matters.

I believe if the car is unlocked, then the screen can be used to open the glove box. If the car isn't unlocked, then you broke in and prying open the glove box isn't beyond what you're willing to do.

Its useful for things like valet mode. You can also have separate passcodes for the glovebox vs regular driving.

> The Model 3/Y are not good rental cars.

That's an interesting way to think about it. I own a Y and have rented a 3 after owning it for more than a year. Even in that situation, the rental was less good than ownership. The rental didn't have app access, so I had to use a keycard. That made locking/unlocking much more awkward. I also couldn't precondition from the app.

It was still a great car, but it felt nothing like the day to day experience of owning one.

Give the voice controls a try! It's the only way I adjust my mirrors.

I have come to appreciate my Model Y's interface for its uniformity. I do love a well designed physical interface, but what you get in most other cars is a total mishmash of control schemes and design languages that change make to make, model to model, and button to button.