I'm glad that pacifists don't play a role in politics where it matters, or we'd long ago given up all hope of freedom.
This is a "we had to destroy the village to save it" type of situation.
There's no freedom if everyone is dead.
Appeasement does not work, especially when you're dealing with a fascist state. You can sell out Poland today, but you will still not stop Russia from "accidentally" attacking the Baltic States tomorrow.
Whatever you imagine that's going to look like, it's going to be better than the world ending.
Not that I think appeasement would work, but I think a chance of freedom is more important than a life of servitude for a lot of the west (most?)
It's horror on a scale that's just unimaginable to virtually anyone who hasn't been through a major war.. and it'll be infinitely worse than that.
It's just sheer insanity that we're getting so close to that and some people are just egging us on to total destruction.
So if Putin wanted the entire world except China and NK, you’d give it to him to stop from destroying everything?