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Using a fez (or fes, if you prefer) as a logo for a "Fast, Effective, Simple" framework named "Kemal" is kind of unfortunate/ironic. Kemal Ataturk actually abolished the use of the fez [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Revolution

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While Atatürk is likely the most well-known person named Kemal to date, it's a pretty common name, and it means something like "mature" or "complete" [1], which is sort of a good goal to reach, or a quality to advertise, for a framework.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_(name)

latest tweet from the official twitter account has a quote from Atatürk.

Check closely the wikipedia list: The name became truly popular only after 1923, when Atatürk established the Republic of Turkey, and it's mostly popular among Turkish people.

So, even though Atatürk was not the first person to be named Kemal, he practically "owns" the name today.

Kemal is an Arabic word. And its a loan word in Persian. And from the influence of Persian & Arabic its used heavily in Turkic and Indo-Aryan languages (Turkish, Urdu/Hindi).

It was mainstream even before Ataturk in India/Iran (Fars territory). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Kemal

Huh. I guess I always thought the hat logo was a nod to Sinatra ( https://sinatrarb.com/ ), given Crystals relationship with Ruby.

This was my first thought the moment I saw the website. I thought maybe the dev's name is Kemal, but that wasn't the case either.

Nah fez is cool. Also there are fictional characters with fez (eg, ustura kemal). Besides Kemal Atatürk used to wear one, suited him nicely

Maybe that was his point.

That makes it even worse then.

It’s offensive.

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