Tesla is well over half of the electric cars. There’s no reason for them to accommodate the absolute worst standard at their stations.
Their year-over-year market share is declining sharply, however. They should have tried this move five years ago.
Even if Tesla updates the Model 3 & Y to be competitive on features, the sheer quantity of competition means they were never going to dominate the space. If they choose to keep removing features from their cars instead of adding them, I start to wonder what exactly Elon's vision for the future of the company is.
By what measure? I would love to buy some electric car that competes with teslas on range/performance but can only find vaporware or far behind competitors.
noting that you appear to agree with my assessment that they want to kill off CCS and force all carmakers to use their ports as a means of avoiding having to change their own supercahrgers, otherwise, no thanks, I own a new car with the NA CCS charger and it was a significant investment. I'd prefer my car not be "killed off".
> Tesla is well over half of the electric cars. There’s no reason for them to accommodate the absolute worst standard at their stations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Charging_System
> Automobile manufacturers that support CCS include BMW, Daimler, FCA, Ford, Jaguar, General Motors, Groupe PSA, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, MG, Polestar, Renault, Rivian, Tesla, Mahindra, Tata Motors and Volkswagen Group.[1][2]
unless they are compelled to do so in the interest of the public good so that "nearly half of electric cars" (currently already on the road) aren't trashed. or please make an adapter for existing CCS cars.
here's a vendor that appears to be planning to manufacture such an adapter. pretty hard to find, though. https://evadept.com/tesla-supercharger-to-ccs-adapter-guide/
Get a grip. They are killing off attaching that stupid charger to all of the infrastructure being built out by both Tesla and everyone else. It’s a laudable goal.
You’ll always be able to carry around an adapter to that sewer pipe sized connector you put in your car for its entire lifetime. It’s not going away and you’ll always be able to charge. Just because you invested in a poor UX we don’t need to saddle the next 50 years of electric cars with trash.
Of course a CCS adapter would be available. It’s money on the table for both chargers and vendors.
> trashed
This level of hyperbole makes it hard to take you seriously.
Even if it was true, I think that would mean you're advocating for all the Teslas to be killed off, which I think would mean you're more wrong than they are!
2. The parent of that parent was also by zzzeek, talking about trashing vehicles. And that was a top level comment.
Also, so far there's been no reason to make an adapter, so nobody has. It should be straightforward.
Tesla has also committed to building Superchargers with CCS connectors.
this is correct, I am just assuming.
> Tesla has also committed to building Superchargers with CCS connectors.
This has happened in some European countries, but as far as the US, it remains all talk; the large amount of Tesla superchargers everywhere remain unavailable for those of us with CCS vehicles. This move seems very much like intended to take the pressure off having to do this change within the US, which is my point (entirely conjecture on my part).
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases...
That phrasing does leave a lot of wiggle room but it doesn’t sound like just continuing to make Superchargers with the Tesla connector.
(Superchargers elsewhere use the relevant local standard.)
The parent comment is frothing with hate and bad faith.
I’m biased, but I’ve also used all three plugs (CCS, J1772, NACS). NACS is the USB-C to the other two’s DVI.
Me too. The Tesla plug was the only one that ever got stuck in the car. So I don't know if I'd say that J1772 is strictly inferior.