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Slight counterpoint - I have written Go in the past and now am working with Kotlin and to be honest, I prefer it. I wouldn't mind Kotlin being the new Java rather than Go.

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I prefer Kotlin as well. Its much more readable for expressing business problems.

Java is the new Java :) With features like records, virtual threads, pattern matching, sealed types, string templates, and more to come, it's shaping up very nicely.

The compile times and the fact it takes 10x the memory for a lot of services is certainly something I would like to see addressed. Not to mention that Java for things like serverless has painfully slow startup times.

Java runs nice and quick when it's ready, but it's slow to get there and quite a memory hog.

I want the compiler doing as much work as it possibly can. If they can somehow make the compiler faster, I guess that’s nice, but I don’t want to be saddled with a language that’s been compromised to move work from the computer back into 0.0001 MHz human brains.

Compile times? Besides gradle’s startup time, java compiles just as fast as go imo. Go barely does any optimization, but javac does even less - so I don’t really see it a problem on actually similarly sized projects.

Memory usage is a tradeoff — a good GC works best with a bit more overhead.

I tried the latest version of Java. Unfortunately, it still feels very clunky. They need to add the ability specify functions directly instead of as classes. ex: BiConsumer<T,U>

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