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The mythical "they murdered A GAZILLION PEOPLE". Yeah, totally made up numbers made by anti-soviet historians that inflated numbers and considered natural causes as "murder". You can say what you want about the Soviet Union, but thinking that they ORDERED the killing of millions is complete derangement.

Were there economic problems and famines? Yes, of course, all countries with a rural economy are exposed to famines. Let me introduce you to the Irish famine, that killed millions in a capitalist country, such as Ireland.

Can we count the millions dying of hunger is capitalist countries as victims of capitalism?

"O'Leary pointed out that the decision-making by the government of the day was based on capitalist principles rather than ethnicity; its aim was to reduce the tax burden on the middle-class (who were of both main ethnicities) by clearing the 'unproductive' landless poor from Ireland." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)

- the worst nuclear accident on the planet

Thats a funny way of calling the bombing of Iroshima and Nagasaki. Iroshima and Nagasaki were not accidents, they were the purposefully killing of millions by an atomic bomb. They were not accidents, THOSE were murders.

Bringing up the atrocities committed by others as a defence of Russia is an interesting angle. You know that more than one country can do bad?

The killing of millions is hard to dispute. Take just one incident, the Holomodor. That engineered catastrophe killed millions and Russia now appears to be trying to wipe out Ukraine again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

It's disingenuous to pretend all of the USSR criticism in this thread is in good faith. Yes, multiple countries can be bad, but clearly one of them is getting way more airtime than the others.

A failed government that oversaw complete collapse of its economy, population and and empire is likely to get a lot of criticism, even if it didn’t commit a huge number of murders, invasions and atrocities.

And a government that colludes internationally to sabotage democratically elected foreign governments, that has committed the worst war time atrocities the world has ever seen, governed by an undemocratic process, where its own citizens can't afford life saving medicine, should get way more criticism than it does.

Fucking USSR apologist. The regime was threatened by poets! Like how could you possibly argue that sending poets to a labor camp to die was for the betterment of the people?

Edit: For anyone wondering what this poster is about, take a look at their brief comment history and all will be cleared up.

Fewer than a quarter of a million people died in both atomic attacks combined, including post-war illnesses. Why is your desire to defend the Soviet Union more important to you than accurate information?

Dude saying less than 250000 civilians died is not the defense you think it is

When someone is whatabouting the WWII atomic attacks in order to pretend that the Holodomor is normal and fine, then yes, it's exactly the defense I think it is. There's an order of magnitude (or two, depending on which sources you take seriously) of difference in casualties. Further, one was an act of war on military targets, and the other doesn't even have that "justification," whether you consider it a justification or not.

There's no "whataboutism" going on here. You just had your hipocrisy pointed out and didn't like it.

> The mythical "they murdered A GAZILLION PEOPLE". Yeah, totally made up numbers made by anti-soviet historians that inflated numbers and considered natural causes as "murder".

Tankie with his "made up numbers" again. What next are you going to say? Holocaust is made up to mud the name of the glorious Reich that lifted Germany out of poverty?

The numbers are literally made up by an organization called "The victims of communism memorial foundation", that was literally started by the US government with the express purpose of spreading propaganda.

There is a guy named Stalin you might want to look up. I think it would change your mind on a few things.

Are we really to the place where people are openly denying Stalin and the Bolshevik revolution each killed millions? You should go to 4chan with the other Qs and revel in your conspiracy theories.

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