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Looks nice to me, granted I have not been following Thunderbird, as I believed it to be dead[0] over a decade ago. Its nice to see that the community has keep it alive!

For Thunderbird users, do you find it interfaces well with Google Workspace Email (Gmail) and Calendar? I prefer native clients to their interface usually but Apple Mail isn't the greatest so I've been using the web interface and I don't particularly enjoy it.

I use BusyCal for calendar and I like it, but I'd love to have it in a "suite" like this, just makes things easier.

[0]: https://www.theverge.com/2012/7/6/3142046/mozilla-halt-furth...

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It works fine, unless you want to use Google Calendar and a non-Gmail email together. Then it goes nuts and makes your Gmail send out calendar invites instead of the email you use.

Oh god, I have some horrible memories when I set up a forwarder from employers Lotus Notes calendar to my Google Calendar. It turned out that Google was very aggressively parsing the body test and recipients of all events and re-sending invites. Also for that company all hands meeting I was invited to, in my first week. No way to disable this, so ended up having to write some custom parser for exported ics files, to strip out the email addresses.

Evolution is working fine with the setup I described, try it out if you need to do this again.

I've used Thunderbird with GMail for years, using POP, not IMAP.

It works well. However, in the last few months, the GMail Spam filtering service has stopped working with POP. Items marked as Spam in GMail still get downloaded.

I guess Google wants us to use their web-client.

What are the benefits of using POP instead of IMAP?

Presumably privacy and security related. IMAP keeps a copy of the email on the server, while POP deletes it

Pop can be configured either way, but what I wonder: doesn't this presume you only ever use one client? For me that would not work at all. Unless you sync mail between your clients another way, then I am all ears.

No, because you can keep the mail on the server. But you said that yourself.

I am pretty sure IMAP can be configured to delete mail from server after sync, and anyway Google has all the time in the world to scan your emails before you delete them.

I learnt this the hard way in the early days of interneting. Lost all my emails after an IBM hard drive died on me and my email client was using POP to retrieve mail.

DeskStar? I also lost everything to one of those drives.

Fortunately I had (some) backups

It sure was!

I remember them being nicknamed DeathStars.

The only problem I've had with GMail via Thunderbird is that some orgs block IMAP access.

I've been quite happy with Calendar as well. You don't get real-time sync and all of the Google Calendar goodies like viewing other people's schedules, adding Google Meet links easily, room booking and probably more are missing. But I've found that using it as mostly view-only works well, then I schedule meetings in the webUI.

That being said the calendar interface has been fairly awkward in the past, so I'm really excited about this new version. I'm sure there will be some rough edges but if they can fix the alignment of events with respect to start+end time and make the view/edit dialog less awful it would be a huge win.

Actually it was the best option I had on Linux for O365 corporate email client. They added OAuth support probably during the past 2 years and they added some important features to the calendar notification about a year ago. The calendar has always been kind of behind though. It definitely wasn't dead but absolutely lots of room for growth. This post made me excited.

I also prefer native clients so I have been using the https://mimestream.com/ beta and it has been working great for me.

The Calendar sync via the gdata-provider plugin is currently broken.

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