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I'm from a country which basically ignore all copyright laws in practice. The musical scene relies on live sessions to generate any money, and the movie scene (which was never anything special) is mostly dead. That's because any media that hits the market is copied and sold everywhere. Even books, if they got popular, will get copied and sold with little enforcement, at every corner.

This is mostly because the means to copy requires little effort compared to the act of creating. So, there is no incentive to create because you wouldn't make a living out of it. Imagine spending two years writing a book and someone buys one and copy it to sell at 25%. He can make a profit at a lower threshold than you, so you as a creator cannot compete.

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> the movie scene (which was never anything special) is mostly dead

To be fair, from my experience most countries don't have much of a movie scene even with copyright and instead mostly import hollywood stuff.

> This is mostly because the means to copy requires little effort compared to the act of creating. So, there is no incentive to create because you wouldn't make a living out of it. Imagine spending two years writing a book and someone buys one and copy it to sell at 25%. He can make a profit at a lower threshold than you, so you as a creator cannot compete.

So don't compete by selling copies but by funding the creation up front. No one is claiming that abolishing copyright won't be disruptive to any existing business models - in fact, that's the point: once something becomes part of our shared culture it is ridiculous to let one entity continue to have exclusive rights so if your business model relies on continued royalties, find a better one.

Otherwise, perhaps consider continued payments to everyone who built your house, computer and whatever else you use if you think that is a great way for society to function. Don't worry, the way things are going we might get there via technical means anyway.

What do you describe is true everywhere. Books were never a get-rich-quick-scheme. There are like seven bands in all of history that get significant revenue from anything other than live shows.

But what do you mean, no incentive to create?

The Tao Te Ching was reluctantly written after the author was begged by his pupils. Most Greek philosopher's teachings were only written down after their death because other people thought that's an important job. On The Origin Of Species is a book because that was just the normal way to communicate scientific findings in Darwin's time. Da Vinci saw some fat commissions in his life, but Mona Lisa certainly never brought him any money. In fact, out of my twenty favorite artists maybe two saw anything approaching fame in their lifetime.

Please, go to some random DeviantArt page or Spotify profile or GitHub repo with 3 views and tell me why it exists when the only reason for human creation is dollars and red carpets...what a sad perspective, really

>The musical scene relies on live sessions to generate any money

That's true even in USA (with strong copyrights), apart from for top .1%

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