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> Microsoft Linux

Man, what a time to be alive! Who would have thought it.

Edit: who's extending, embracing and extinguishing now?!

Still Microsoft, although after a change of tactics. They don't want to kill Linux anymore, but something even more dangerous: controlling it by making their one the accepted corporate standard ("Nobody was ever fired for using MS Linux", etc).

The day they push some proprietary or oddly licensed technology to be integrated into their Linux is the day a thousands alerts should be raised into the community. Then will come software that runs only, or runs better, on their Linux. WSL was the first step: making something with both Microsoft and Linux in its name accepted by the community.

Mariner isn't being pushed for others, it's a way for Microsoft to mitigate risk of supply chain attacks in their services currently using other distros

>Still Microsoft

Here, here. I haven't seen anything yet that isn't straight out of the MS playbook on this.

Did you mean 'hear, hear', or is 'here, here' something I missed?

exactly what has been extended or extinguished, here? What kernel versions belong to Microsoft?

has Dell, or anyone else, been told to stop selling laptops with Linux in favor of Windows with WSL under threat that they won't be able to sell Windows laptops anymore?

exactly what world are you seeing, because it isn't the one I live on.

  > The day they push some proprietary or oddly licensed technology to be integrated into their
  > Linux is the day a thousands alerts should be raised into the community.

EFI boot?

UEFI was created by an alliance of 12 companies, 11 of whom are not Microsoft, and Intel began the work. Again, not Microsoft.

TianoCore is an open source reference implementation of UEFI maintained by Intel; there's no proprietary Microsoft stuff in there.

Microsoft seek to ease development for users who either choose Windows or who are forced to use Windows by an employer. there's no "play" here, no extending or extinguishing. They want, like any reasonable developer would, a better world for software developers.

Yep. And everything their sleeper agent Pottering wrote.

That sounds a lot like Oracle Linux, but nobody really cares.

It is not like the first time they tried a Unix. Xenix was a thing in the past.

> Edit: who's extending, embracing and extinguishing now?!

Still an open question, I'd say.

Yeah, we're just now reaching the embracing. First Windows+WSL becomes the ideal dev environment, then Linux apps run natively without WSL, and then... why run a Linux kernel? After that they'll have their sights on the real prize: being the dominant browser again.

> First Windows+WSL becomes the ideal dev environment, then Linux apps run natively without WSL, and then... why run a Linux kernel?

I think it's more like, "Why run a NT Kernel?" or from an MS internal perspective, "Why fund development and testing of an NT Kernel? We already made it so all legacy Windows apps run natively on Linux anyways"

I find these kind of comments fascinating, with the juxtaposition of the late 90s OS wars from the Linux side and the complete pivot to aaS and meet people where they are from Microsoft.

Be as watchful as you want, be aware that the enemy isn’t coming though.

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