There was also this whole D1 vs D2 where some of us (I was involved with Tango) though D1 more of as a 'better C' (not related to actual better C) and D2 more of as a better C++. Personally, I was more interested in D1 direction. D took the D2 route with Alexandrescu onboard at a time. The whole thing then was also lacking support. Even if D was a better language (D1 was, I guess D2 might be as well - haven't dabbled in a decade with it), you had to do everything from scratch. No libraries, abandoned bindings, etc.. instead of doing work with it, you had to do the plumbing first. That's true for most niche languages. Rust was like that as well, but not seems to have a momentum going on for it and is growing / has grown out of that phase D never did. D has been around now what, 15-20 years? How sweet would it be for someone of Walter's caliber to join the ranks of Rust team? Dude is incredible, but D seems to be a dead end ultimately. Sorry to sound so harsh, but it didn't happen on a scale it needs, why would it now or ever?