Don’t mistake single news articles for cultural norms.
Things like these are in the headlines because they’re weird, rare, and noteworthy. I assure you this situation isn’t playing out across the entire US. Stereotyping an entire massive country based on a single news story about a weird dispute between neighbors is just illogical.
This is outrage journalism. The entire purpose of the story is to make you think “that’s outrageous!” and get angry. The journalist who wrote it might have even exaggerated the situation or left out key details to make it as sensational as possible.
Don’t take the bait.
I've seen more than one story about this sort of behaviour from US housing associations.
America is full of people who believe in their right to be completely their own person, and that everyone else should be exactly like them as well. By force, if necessary.
You still get it in older non-HOA governed areas, but it's at least then at the level of laws (our town bans roosters and taxes chickens insanely high for example, lol).
Note that there was no law against this.
"This coming from the country where morons want to own a gun to protect their property and all other bs excuses, it's rather comedic."
This is highly inflammatory and disrespectful language and some might see it as trolling to get us off topic.
"And she received two anonymous notes from neighbors saying they did not want to see her underwear flapping about."
This is what she says happened. There content of the note is not provided, they didn't reach out to the officials, they didn't interview neighbors.
Hanging laundry is normal in some areas of the US too. Although it might not be normal to hang it along the road in your front yard (most have it in the back yard). I'm guessing there are some legal things in Portugal that annoy you, no? That's all that's objectively and factually happened here.
Although I do disagree with the use of anonymous notes and getting the government involved in petty stuff. But for every story of bad neighbors doing this, there are orders of magnitude more unreported stories of neighbors helping each other.
Yes, and? I find it plausible something like that happened based on my own experiences here. I see minimal incentive for her to lie. This isn't a court: that's enough for me to assume it true for the purpose of idle commentary.
> But for every story of bad neighbors doing this, there are orders of magnitude more unreported stories of neighbors helping each other.
That's consistent with there being a serious problem. You can't compare "raw number of bad things" to "raw number of good things" like that. Trivial example: if 4% of a neighborhood is shot at that's a neighborhood with a big shooting problem.
"that's enough for me to assume it true for the purpose of idle commentary."
Why don't you assume what I'm saying is the truth? This is a story with terrible journalism. There's really no reason to assume this is the whole story, or even an accurate one.
"That's consistent with there being a serious problem. You can't compare "raw number of bad things" to "raw number of good things" like that. Trivial example: if 4% of a neighborhood is shot at that's a neighborhood with a big shooting problem."
Please read the context. We aren't talking about shootings. The prior comment implies bad neighbors being common in the US. I'm saying thats not the case. Clearly assessing what is common would be useful to compare raw numbers.
Only in the US it is. The rest of us agree.
I know it's a big place in its own right and opinions differ inside the US too; I'm sure I'm not the first who, when adding all these peculiarities up, come to the conclusion that many or most Americans just don't like/trust their fellow Americans. So much seems to be about keeping others away, down, invisible, out or even dead.
I would bet there people in your own country who do not agree. Sounds like you're marginalizing them, which is not nice.
I know it's fun to hate on the USA at every given opportunity but this is less some systemic issue with the US and more a squabble between a few individuals who are violating a contract they chose to sign, and their neighbors who also signed said contract because they wanted to live in a place without laundry flapping about.
Sure, but there's limits to what you can display on your front lawn without annoying the neighbours, no?
As per the pic in the article, she's handing her clothing in the front yard, which, even in a country where drying-by-hanging is the norm, is still considered tacky and stupid.[1]
Now, maybe she doesn't have a backyard, or maybe it doesn't have enough space, but the article didn't say so. They also pick a single quote used in the anonymous notes - "Don't want to see your underwear" (or something similar), without the rest of the anonymous note. My guess is that she has already had notes asking her to do this in the privacy of her backyard.
I wish they (or the woman herself) could have stated why it has to be the front lawn or nothing at all.
> This coming from the country where morons want to own a gun to protect their property and all other bs excuses, it's rather comedic.
[1] I'm 46 years old in said country, and I have never before in my life seen people hang their laundry on their front lawn. How common is this in Portugal?
Not in Scotland. In smaller towns you'll even see poles installed next to the sidewalk to hang your laundry in public.
After all, Scotland is an outlier in this regard - there's a number of non-third-world countries where people are regarded as trailer-trash (or the local equivalent) for hanging their clothing in the front yard.
I’m sure bad neighbors exist in Portugal.
> For the pic seems to be her home, her property and she can't even hang her clothes to dry.
The picture is literally refuting what you’re claiming? She was able to hang her clothes to dry.
against a rising tide of housing associations who oppose the practice
...and which are not present everywhere in the US.
Getting rid of a HOA is a fun exercise, and it's sometimes done, but rarely.