Comment by NoraCodes | Hacker News Reader

Comment by NoraCodes | Hacker News Reader

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Wow, that's a lot of bullshit in one comment.

- "Conversion therapy" generally means programs designed to make children straight, and I have never heard anyone use it the way you're using it

- Puberty blockers are routinely used for precocious puberty in non-trans children, and are no more dangerous than any other routine medical intervention

- Given how difficult it is for minors who themselves insist that they are trans to access medical care, and the fact that I can't find any credible reports of such things happening, I don't believe you when you insinuate that adults force children into transition

- Being gay doesn't require sexual activity; we accept that straight minors can experience romantic feelings, and it's not at all frowned upon in American culture. Asserting that gay minors cannot also experience romantic feelings is simple homophobia. I was a bisexual child before I became a bisexual adult, and I dated people of the same sex in high school.

I think you meant to "here's" instead of "that's".

I haven't heard of anyone using "conversion therapy" on children to make them straight (maybe for teens or adults in the 60s or something, and in fringe groups after that). But there is certainly a booming industry around giving children puberty blockers and hormone therapy

Also there aren't trans children without adults who are leading them into believing that they are in the wrong body, be it through positive reinforcement, abuse, or whatever other means

Your final point is pretty loaded. Children don't have romantic feelings, but they will express fondness for others by emulating things that they see adults doing. I don't think you were a "bisexual child" since you were (hopefully) not being sexually engaged as a child

Your worldview is unsupported by the scientific and sociological consensus, and facts in general, and I'm not particularly interested in arguing about it. Many of the assertions you make here are simply untrue, and it's very easy to ascertain the truth by reading relevant research; I suggest you do so.

I'm not interested in researching anything behind your harmful and distorted ideology

> Your final point is pretty loaded. Children don't have romantic feelings, but they will express fondness for others by emulating things that they see adults doing. I don't think you were a "bisexual child" since you were (hopefully) not being sexually engaged as a child

You've completely changed the person's argument by replacing "minors" with "children". They used "child" once, but the context clearly didn't mean prepubescent.

It's pretty easy to become familiar with conversion therapy information if one wishes to. An estimated 350,000[1] children have received such therapy. I hope this information finds you well.

1. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Co...

Reading the age ranges in that post already underline the point I made earlier about this kind of thing becoming much less common in recent decades

Your point was that because you weren't familiar with the information that it wasn't prevalent. Most people would admit that they didn't know that and respond with, "Thanks I didn't know that until know."

At this point it's pretty clear that you're arguing in bad faith. I've read enough Satre to understand what's going on here. Thanks.

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