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One thing I appreciate with Apple is that there is a smaller version of the Pro device. 6.7” still feels huge to me.

Apple cancelled the "mini" form factor. Their smallest phone is now last years iPhone 13. :-(

It's all in the eye of the beholder I guess. I felt forced to get the Pro Max because it was the only acceptably large phone in their lineup, and still smaller than most competitors.

At this point you may want to consider an iPad mini cellular

iPad mini is an awful device ergonomics wise. Any large phone is more comfortable

Given the speaker location, would using an iPad mini as a phone be "end-talking?"

Another feature was that the speaker and microphone were located on the side edge of the phone; this often resulted in many describing it as talking into a "taco phone"[32] or "Sidetalking"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-Gage_(device)

It can't work as phone. Only certain android tablets in certain regions can.

they still sell the 2022 SE. It's their cheapest phone and shares processors with the 13.

They didn't cancel it . iPhone 13 mini is still available.

I would not be surprised if iPhone SE 2024 would be an iPhone Mini form factor.

6.7" is huge to everybody, they're just ignoring the obvious ergonomic problem because the reality of selling phones at retail is your model has to be the biggest one.

They're going to be prying my iPhone SE out of my cold, clenched hand when I die.

actual customers tend to like bigger phones with bigger screens. You don't need to be old to remember how iphone had the 'perfect' phone with the perfect size right up until everyone was buying bigger phones and apple made iphones bigger and the majority of customers like it better.

Enjoy your SE but larger phones are not a problem for the overwhelming majority of people.

People prefer bigger houses and bigger cars and bigger phones at the point of sale but then they don't enjoy owning them. That's my point! You only have to watch someone struggle with a 6" phone for a few seconds to see how bad the experience is objectively.

they do enjoy owning them, especially when they watch media on them, and they buy bigger phones again and again.

You're just wrong.

Question...

Do customers actually like bigger phones with bigger screens?

Or were customers going to buy the latest phone anyways, and manufacturers are incorrectly assuming they bought the bigger phone because they wanted it?

And then the other question...when manufacturers bundle specific features with the larger size and leave them off the smaller size, are they assuming people are buying the larger phone because it's larger, and not because of the specific features of that model? Like, I bought a Pixel 6 Pro because of the better camera, not because it's larger.

>Do customers actually like bigger phones with bigger screens?

is the iphone SE the best selling iphone? We've had multiple generations for people to do as you claim and say 'na didn't like it' but instead that's not what happens. they like phones with bigger screens.

>Like, I bought a Pixel 6 Pro because of the better camera, not because it's larger.

The pro was about 5mm longer than the non pro. The size variance was basically nill. in exchange for 5mm longer phone, the pro customers get and additional ~12mm2 of screen space. The whole thing is a red herring and nothing to do with the conversation.

>Do customers actually like bigger phones with bigger screens?

Sales Data and Survey suggest yes. They are simply using it like a mini tablet.

Not EVERYBODY - as a 6'6" man I think a 6.7" screen is just right. My S20+ feels great.

I'm glad there's a phone that suits you and I don't think they should stop offering large-screen phones. I'm at the 90th percentile height for adult males in the U.S., my hand spans 8", and I cannot reach the top opposite corner of 4.7" phone with my thumb while holding the phone in the same hand. On a 4" screen, I can reach it all. 6.7" is obviously out of the question for 1-handed operation.

This fact must be known to Apple and Google since they include an affordance where by double-tapping or swiping down on the screen the top half of the display moves into the bottom half. They know the median customer cannot possibly one-hand these phones.

The Pixel 7 is 6.3, so a bit smaller.

You lose the telephoto camera, 120Hz display, and 4GB of RAM.

Please, Pro shouldn't mean bigger and chunkier. Do what Apple does: standard, Max, Pro, Pro Max.

Unfortunately you have to give up the higher specs of the 7 Pro if you do that. One nice thing about the iPhone Pro line is the core specs are the same between the 6.1 and 6.7" models.

It is huge. I tried the 6 Pro, I couldn't stand how big and uncomfortable it was.

I remember when devices this size were somewhat derisively labeled "phablets". Now people want ever bigger. Apple should rebrand the iPad Mini as iPhone Max PRO, it would probably sell like hotcakes.

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