Google Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro
store.google.com
store.google.com
If I open the link in private mode, I get redirected to a region picker, where Google reluctantly lets me choose US ("are you _sure_ you want to visit the US store?") From there I have to navigate to the new pixel phones, having completely lost where the link pointed.
I can't believe how difficult Google, a company that claims to have its mission to organize the worlds information, makes it to access their marketing webpages!
Google always get close when they make things, but they never quite get it 100% right.
Google has a history of trying to block users who they don’t ship to, from viewing item details in their online stores.
When I clicked this link, it said my administrator has not allowed me to view this site.
The only way out of this that I've found is to clear Google's cookies.
Correction - there is another way out: just don't visit the site. Dealing with Google is just not worth the hassle.
You can also use multi-account containers in firefox [1]
[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
now the house has 3 iphones, 2 pixel phones instead. the two pixel phone owners are using pixels for software-related reasons(job related to android to some extent, and pixel typically has the newest android updates earliest), otherwise it will be 5 iphones now.
in short, Pixel are not solid built per my experience.
My kids own iPhones, they haven't had a problem with theirs either.
In short, I've got nothing really to report.
Modern technology works just fine in the general case, aside from anecdotes of failures. News at 11.
That seems to be the exception.
>Every time a new Pixel phone comes out, we make a whole article summarizing all the problems people have with them. We don’t do this for any other manufacturer. Google has proven over the years that its phones simply have way more issues than others.
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-biggest-proble...
I've had 2 Nexus 5x and a Pixel 3a before switching to an iPhone. I can't believe the amount of bullshit I coped up with because I didn't know better.
Both Nexus died because of a well known boot loop issue that was never truly acknowledged by Google (support ghosted me twice). The Pixel died because the socket kinda broke and I couldn't charge it anymore.
All 3 phones became awfully slow after roughly one year of use.
In comparison I switched to an iPhone 2 years ago and it really is good as new: it doesn't feel slower, every single hardware or software feature works great, it's still a first class citizen when it comes to OS updates. As it goes I easily plan to keep it at least 2 to 3 more years. I've never kept an Android phone more than 2 years.
To be fair though the Nexus and Pixel were low end devices. Maybe my experience would have been better with higher end Androids.
[1] https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en#z...
This week I finally turned it off. After leaving it plugged in constantly for several years, I noticed the battery was swollen and there was a notable bulge behind the screen.
That said, I had another Nexus 5x that did die prematurely due to some kind of storage related problem.
Since the Nexus line, my wife and I have only bought Pixel phones, and have never had a hardware defect in any of them.
I bought a Samsung S9 in 2018. After a year the case was kind of coming apart, but I’d come to like Android and so I replaced it with a Pixel 4 and hoped first-party hardware would be better. Nope. After like 6 months the NFC stopped working, which I tolerated. After a year the back case adhesive was failing and the case was, again, coming apart. I replaced the back case and adhesive. It held for almost another year, then failed again.
I bought an iPhone 13 mini and it’s been less than a year but so far it seems just as reliable as my previous iPhones and much sturdier than either Android I had. There were a lot of things I liked about Android, and I realize I’m a sample of one but after back-to-back poor hardware experiences I’m skeptical of Android phone quality even for flagships.
I’ll be sad if I can’t get a similar mini form factor when I do eventually need to upgrade, but Android phones weren’t getting any smaller either so that’s a whole separate thing.
BTW that Galaxy S7 still works. I only upgraded because all the updates to Google Maps, Gmail, and other newer versions of software were understandably too slow for the device.
As a more objective, non-anecdotal data point, second (and often third-, fourth-) hand market of apple devices is always blooming, not giving way to such a device churn as all the androids do (but again, it is not a fair comparison as most android is not high end out there)
We then purchased a Galaxy Note9. And same story - within a year and a half, super inexplicably slow, closing apps at random, eeking it along until we can get a new phone from Verizon. Then it started dropping phone calls after a botched software update. Plenty of complaints on the forums - no response from Samsung. Software resets had no effect on that issue if you were effected. At that point, replacing the phone was a business necessity. [And my dad isn't doing anything intense - 90% of his work is in Outlook and the web browser.]
This time, iPhone 13 Pro Max. We'll see how it goes. Been almost a year, performs like ever. Seems to be holding up...
On that note, we were also angry at Samsung because we bought a Samsung kitchen. The Stove broke after a year, the replacement also broke, switched brands. The Dishwasher lasted 6 months... and broke, switched out with Bosch. The Microwave hasn't broke... yet... but the electronics are in the door and the repairman warned us those only last a few years before the circuit board snaps from the impacts, so be delicate. At that point we swore off Samsung for everything.
EDIT: If you are wondering if this was due to battery problems... a battery replacement on the Note9 made no discernible difference.
I still use my Pixel 2 as a standalone device and it still works great.
I got a Pixel 2XL and an iPhone XS Max back in 2018. The Pixel no longer gets major Android updates and hasn’t for over a year. The iPhone just got iOS 16 and will almost certainly get iOS 17.
I know Google have said they will support devices longer and I hope that is true but who really knows with Google. They said two months ago Stadia wasn’t going anywhere too.
As part of their sales documentation they have said they will support software for 5 years. That's not something they can renege on without serious legal consequences. It certainly doesn't mean they're guaranteed to provide support for all future Pixel phones for that long, but it does for the 7.
I'm using an 11 year old Motorola Defy daily, using the original battery which still lasts for 3 days. It is used as a netcast player (using dSub which connects to the Airsonic server under the stairs), messaging client (mostly Telegram, Conversations (XMPP client) as backup) and phone. It is waterproof, shockproof and with its 3.7" screen small enough to fit in the breast pocket of most shirts.
I never had a Pixel so I can not comment on their reliability. We have never had to return any of our devices... except for the one iOS device we had in the house when my daughter got an iPad from school - it just died and needed to be replaced. Comparing that device to the host of Android devices (all running AOSP derived distributions) we use showed just how many restrictions iOS puts on the user so we did not miss it when she had to leave it back. The school obviously felt the same since they ditched the iPads for Chromebooks.
My daily phone is a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 from 2019, running LineageOS. Next to that I use the mentioned Motorola Defy from 2011, a Samsung Galaxy Tab III (10.1") from 2013 and a Teclast x80 Pro from 2016. I used to use a Samsung Galaxy SIIIneo from 2014 but that one suffered a broken screen when it fell from the roof while installing solar panels. The thing still works but I actually prefer the Motorola Defy over it due to its more compact size. Notice the age of these devices, they're "ancient" by most measures but perfectly useable.
What happened to the proposal to fund production of a reasonable-size stock Android phone that was going around a few months back? Did anything come of that?
I have a pair of qc25 which are awesome when I'm working or travelling (train or plane); don't need wireless when I'm sitting.
Swapping battery is trivial and if I'm out headset is still usable just no ANC.
1. Lack of latency
2. Lack of unreliable and dodgy bluetooth
3. No need to charge battery
4. Ubiquity (my 3.5mm audiophile headphones plug into about every device I own except my phone)
5. Wired headphones/earbuds have a better audio quality for the price compared to wireless alternatives, and are cheaper to replace.
6. My car (a Civic from the mid 2000s) only has an AUX output, which I prefer anyway because it's simpler to unplug/plug into my phone or a passengers phone rather than fiddling with Bluetooth settings
I carry around a USB-C dongle with me in my backpack as well as in my car, but I would prefer not to.
I have been on calls with people where their audio cuts out midway through due to charge or connection issues. Those issues are impossible and rare, respectively, with a jack based mic/headphone.
I have seen and heard of people dropping one of their buds on the street, in the sink, or into a vat of liquid nitrogen... Not something that happens with a jack.
Don't get me started on the cost. In many cases you pay 5-10 times as much for wireless buds at the same level of audio/call quality.
TL;DR bluetooth is shit, batteries are shit, tiny expensive easy to drop/misplace devices are shit.
- My wired mic/earbuds pick up less environmental noise than my "fancy" wireless earbuds
Bluetooth has gotten better over the years but it's certainly still buggy, at least with Android. I don't like the environmental impact of buying unnecessary electronics, particularly battery-powered ones, constantly just to be able listen to music. I like technology that can "just work" every time without the constraints or anxiety. I don't like having wireless transmitters directly on my head or in my ear when it can be easily avoided, even if I know they are low power.
I am lucky that I could afford the added cost of wireless headphones if I wanted them, but with billions of people not able to afford basic expenses and phones increasingly required to live a life these days, it seems fairly cynical to industry-wide remove an obvious cheap feature and force everyone to much higher-cost and higher-resource consumption technology. Yes I acknowledge the Pixel line is not a budget item, I just mean for this type of change in general.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324680368007 is one that looks like it would do the job.
How long until USB-C is discontinued and all phones are zero port?
The adapter is awful, my headphones randomly stop working if I move too much, I constantly have to plug it on and off again, etc. Yeah, it's probably because I damaged it, but with the way it dangles off the phone and snags on everything there's no way it wasn't gonna get damaged.
Unfortunately, if you want to buy a good and reliable one, you should probably spend at least $15-$20 on one. I've had luck with the Anker-branded one, though the audio quality is noticeably worse than when I used a phone with a direct 3.5mm port. YMMV.
Still I probably put more strain on the jack port than the usb-c, when used only for charging, so if the first one fails at least it does not brick my device.
And i can still charge while listening to music :).
Edit: probably would not buy the adapter you linked put even more strain on the port but corded one exists.
Having a headphone jack built into my phone would be great so that I didn't need an extra dongle. I still carry around a DAP to listen to music to that way I don't have to rely on streaming services, since my last few phones haven't had a headphone jack.
I think part of the reason is that I like listening to acoustic music rather than pop rock edm or whatever is popular and consumer headphones tend to be bass heavy rather than going for clarity. I followed up with some studio speakers and they sound really excellent to me in comparison to the expensive consumer speakers I had before.
Most importantly, I want to charge my phone while using headphones at the same time.
Phones aren't getting faster enough for me to care about having the newest phone anymore. If my laptop and my tablets and my tv remote, and game controller all have 3.5mm jacks, buying a phone without one is a dumb decision. Why would I intentionally pay for a worse daily experience?
Usb c to 3.5mm adapters all have had worse quality than a native port. A phone lacking a headphone jack isn't a feature, it's a way to generate a new revenue stream.
I know I am in a very small population of hours spent listening to audio in a day, probably top 5%, but I believe my phone should make my life easier, not harder. Bluetooth still isn't anywhere close to having feature parity to the 3.5mm headphone jack. If it was, companies would have dropped headphones jacks from their laptops.
Dell xps 13 plus, released feb 2022, doesn't have a headphone jack. No laptop since has followed this decision, not even apple.
Also, I refuse to deal with Bluetooth until pairing reliably works and sound is always high quality even with microwave interference. I don't expect them to succeed.
If I have an helmet on, the only thing that fits in my ear are run of the mill jack and cord buds. Bulky bluetooth buds don't fit. And having something physically attached to me is a plus, since I lost one wireless earbud in the woods once.
When I run and sweat, I can feel the larger and heavier wireless earbuds slip out of my ear.
In the gym, wireless and 3.5 are largely interchangeable.
And my car stereo has only 3.5mm aux in, that's how I listen to music while in it.
About 75% of the current android version market share is Android 11.0 and lower. Android 11 came out in 2021. What's wasteful is thinking you have to throw away a phone because it won't receive security updates. You absolutely should not scrap phones like this.
In all my life, I have not once seen an android phone actually exploited. I have read about a lot of them online. But I haven't seen an exploited phone in person. Other than exploits that I have used to gain root access on devices, which all require physical access. Around 18 percent of the current android market share is made up of devices running Android 9 and earlier. Android has 3 billion active devices according to the most recent Google I/O. That's 600 million devices. I imagine I will be fine for the next 4 to 5 years regardless of the security update situation.
I will support phone manufacturers that have proper hardware, like a headphone jack and sd card slot over manufacturers that promise security updates every single time. I will continue to boycott phones that don't have a headphone jack. I will not make my current technology deprecated by design in order to have a supposedly flagship phone/device. We should support decent companies like Sony that don't remove useful features in order to create new revenue streams. I have really nice headphones, any phone manufacturer that removed the headphone jack is encouraging me to generate e-waste in order to use their product.
Right now is a terrible time to judge a phone company, the chip shortage hasn't gone anywhere, international markets are still heavily limited. Sony doesn't seem to be looking into becoming a replacement for LG, it seems to be happy existing in its current niche. The advances in camera technology engineered into Sony phones show it does not plan on going anywhere. I will be very disappointed if Sony leaves the phone business.
There are interesting phone manufacturers that I would like to buy a phone from, but they have essentially zero presence in the US.
1+ has some.
I sleep with earphones on. No wireless earphones have the thin form factor nor the battery life to last all night - and without the wire they'll get lost in the bed.
That should buy us 2 or 3 more years of wired headphone, and let the wireless tech continue to improve.
You can buy adapters that pass through power and also have a 3.5mm jack - I have one of those and find it even flakier.
Great news --- long overdue!
Bastards.
Pixel 7 & 7 Pro aren't listed yet, but it's hard to imagine they aren't going to show up here: https://source.android.com/docs/setup/build/running
Maybe I'm just getting older. I'd rather have year over year consistency over what some committee of designers thinks is more "modern".
Sounds like you get security updates for five years with no concrete promise of how many OS updates you get.
If we're going to include years where you only get a security update, the nine year old iPhone 5s just got another security update a month ago.
The $399 original iPhone SE got six years of OS updates and also got another security update at the end of August.
Apples and oranges here, as yes they get updates but are missing features supported in newer devices.
Whereas Android does not get updates but new features are part of libraries and included in versions 5+ years old easily.
It isn't as simple as just saying "the iPhone SE still gets updates!", context is important
Nah, it's that simple. iPhone SE got major OS updates and security updates. Yes a few features are not available (mostly camera related), but most of them are. iPhone software update adds longevity to devices that Android devices can only dream about.
Android ships many new features via libraries, so older devices are able to use new APIs generally.
It isn't as simple as your comment claims.
> but new features are part of libraries and included in versions 5+ years old easily
No. No they don't if you're not being completely disingenuous. Jetpack AppCompat style libraries backport app functionality that older Apple devices will get via OS updates in a strictly saner way than having to rely on a backport of a TextView...
OS-level functionality does not get backported and of course cannot come from library changes.
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Some people who don't know better try to imply that iOS tying things like the mail app to the OS means that Android should be excused... Android does the same thing.
Gmail is not the Android built-in mail app, just like on iOS Gmail is an additional app that's shipped by Google. This is the Android Email app and it hasn't been updated in 3 years: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Emai...
Headline features like Assistant changes, privacy and permissions, and system UI overhauls don't end up on your old device either.
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Android's update strategy has resulted in a hellscape where Google is forced to recommend supporting a 6 year old version of their OS (that doesn't get security updates anymore!) by default.
Missing nice-to-have features doesn't make iOS's approach any less infinitely better than the Android mess.
What you're doing is like bragging that your neighbor's filet mignon is a little undercooked while you chow down on dog food.
This is critically important, though. Look at Compose vs SwiftUI for example–Compose works really well, and even in beta was more stable than SwiftUI, which is nearly impossible to support on iOS 13 devices without massive kludges.
> OS-level functionality does not get backported and of course cannot come from library changes.
This is true, though not super relevant IMO. What OS functionality are folks missing on Android due to being behind? Security updates are the important bit, and most devices still get those for years.
> Gmail is not the Android built-in mail app, just like on iOS Gmail is an additional app that's shipped by Google.
The built-in app isn't updated because Google moved away from that model entirely. Why even bring it up? It's irrelevant.
> Headline features like Assistant changes, privacy and permissions, and system UI overhauls don't end up on your old device either.
Assistant receives updates via the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...
Good point regarding privacy & permissions, apps also need to use newer SDK versions to support those IIRC.
The UI overhaul is a weird thing to be concerned about on Android. If you care that much you will install your own launcher. And apps that care will ship the updated UI, one of the advantages of them just being libraries. I guess the notification pane won't update, but is that a huge deal? I'd guess for most folks the answer is no.
> Android's update strategy has resulted in a hellscape where Google is forced to recommend supporting a 6 year old version of their OS
It isn't perfect, but far better than supporting SwiftUI on iOS 13, for example
> What you're doing is like bragging that your neighbor's filet mignon is a little undercooked while you chow down on dog food.
Honestly this is just rude imo, no
To be clear, I think there are pros and cons to both approaches. I think somewhere in the middle would be better, but generally prefer the way Android approaches putting new APIs into older apps.
People who need to force iOS 13 support are not representative of the development environment. iOS 14+ (from 2 years) represents 99% of the market. You couldn't target that percentage of Android devices even if you targeted Marshmallow, a 7 year old release!
> The built-in app isn't updated because Google moved away from that model entirely. Why even bring it up? It's irrelevant.
Gmail on Android is comparable to Gmail on iOS.
Mail.app is comparable to AOSP Email.
AOSP Email stopped being updated because Android devices never get updated, so it was becoming a liability. Except now realize that issue applies to _every single feature_ baked into an Android release.
> Assistant receives updates via the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...
Yeah and Google assistant is on iOS... https://apps.apple.com/us/app/google-assistant/id1220976145
But it's not nearly as powerful, assistant regularly leverages APIs that are part of new OS releases, so just like you're describing on iOS, you'll get the version but you won't get all the features
> The UI overhaul is a weird thing to be concerned about on Android
https://www.android.com/android-13/
The first headline feature is about the UI changes and that's always been a thing.
> Honestly this is just rude imo, no
It's not rude, it's being real. Android's update situation is an absolute nightmare on so many levels. Millions of devices that don't get security patches anymore since even the 5 year standard is recent and Google-specific. Backporting even the most basic functionality like a simple text view to 8 year old versions.
It shouldn't be defended, Google had the power to pressure SoC manufacturers, got halfway with Treble, then just kind of gave up by not enforcing compliance via CTS. Now they want to switch to enabling updates with hypervisors, but again haven't made a peep about ever bringing down the hammer on compliance.
The same way that the AOSP Email app hasn't been updated in years so you want to compare Gmail, these manufacturers need Google to have the experience (western) audiences expect. So Google is 100% fumbling their one role at being a buffer between the wild west SoC manufacturers want where they drop new SoCs and stop updating them after 5 minutes.
It is important to look at AppStore Connect and actually check the breakdown of your users. When your app has millions of downloads and even 5% are still on 13 it hurts to drop support for them.
> Mail.app is comparable to AOSP Email.
It really isn't. Nobody gets an Android phone to use AOSP email, and it doesn't come on most phones by default.
> It's not rude, it's being real.
That's not the way I see it. Like I said, there are pros and cons with both approaches. Your comments are too black and white and ignore the reality that there are a lot of advantages to Google's approach, and iOS would be improved by adopting similar tactics.
FWIW, I think it would be nice if Google strong-armed folks into longer update cycles (or better yet, manufacturers just did it!). I think if Google brings the hammer down as you suggest the anti-trust situation they find themselves in will be debilitating.
The 6a's biggest downside is that it still doesn't fit in a normal pocket. Its second biggest downside is dated camera hardware. The 7 would fix that second gripe, but it's even bigger than the 6a.
Am I really so much in the minority in wanting a reasonably-sized phone? Like 2.75"x5.5"?
Your best bet might be Samsung Galaxy S22.
It's not an apples-to-apples comparison. Going from a 6 Pro to a 6 doesn't just mean it's smaller, it means going from a 120 hz screen to 60 hz and losing the telephoto camera, ultrawide front camera, 512 GB storage option, and ultra wideband support.
Going from a Pixel 6 to a 6a gets a lower-quality, 60 hz screen, loses the 256 GB option, and gets only a 12 MP front camera.
Put all the features of the 6 Pro into the 6a form factor, and THEN you can have the apples-to-apples comparison and decide if people actually want large phones.
there was a project about making a smaller phone that got #1 in HN a few months ago. wondering what is the progress on it.
https://smallandroidphone.com/
Sign up to help pressure OEMs to build something reasonably sized!
Ended up sending it back and getting a refurbished Pixel 5. Not state of the art, but the size/weight is perfect and the physical fingerprint reader never misses a beat.
Really, really hoping they bring back a sensible model to the Pixel line for people that just want a nice, clean, lightweight phone.
I got my 512 GB Pixel 6 Pro by having a friend but it for me in Australia and shipping it by mail. It arrived safely after a more than 17K km trip and some customs paperwork, and I'm very happy with it, but I don't think I'm going to do that again for the 7 Pro.
Sometimes I feel tempted to switch to Apple just because they don't do this market segmentation thing (or at least in the countries that I know of). If you want 512, you pay and you get it. If you want 1 TB, you pay and you get it.
Why can't we get 512 GB in Europe on a phone with a great camera that many of us use to take lots of photos and videos, Google? It doesn't make sense.
My first thought that the higher storage phones need to be repriced due to strong USD.
If they sold the 512 7 Pro in Europe I might buy it and offer the 6 Pro to my mother-in-law who has a 5 or so year-old phone now (or my mother with her 4-year-old one, or maybe to my wife, and she in turn to her mother), but I don't think I will be going through the Australian workaround and the associated customs and warranty risks for that.
What's happening there?
Sadly, this message was sent from my Pixel 6 pro, which I used to browse the product page.
https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/xwjnf2/pixel_6_pro...
Or are there separate bugs that happen on their own as well, in other cases? There seems to be a "PhoneAccount Abuse Detector" app, but I am not sure if it can be trusted to tell you if you are suffering from all known 911 bugs, or just one particular one.
[1] https://medium.com/@mmrahman123/how-a-bug-in-android-and-mic...
So presumably the 911 issue is something different.
What's happening there?
Sadly, this message was sent from my Pixel 6 pro, which I used to browse the product page.
I do use the camera a lot, but that doesn't really expose me to any security issues.
Then again, the only reason I was even interested in following the development was because I had been considering to buy a new phone after 5 years to use Graphene OS.
No way, if you go caseless, it's so much better than the asymmetric camera bump. If you use a case, it doesn't matter either way.
I personally never spend more than 170-200€.
Is it the quality of the camera? What am I not seeing?
If I buy a new iPhone every 3-4 years (I went from an iPhone 7S to an iPhone XR to an iPhone 13 Pro Max), I'm buying the camera upgrades, which are very noticeable. I have a kid, we travel a lot, so I take a lot of photos and videos... for me, it's a no-brainer.
In my experience cheaper ones tend to have performance and battery issues much more quickly, than high end, and in the end aren't cheaper.
I heard this on a podcast a while back "You'll never look back and remember the screen/battery/etc jump from X -> X+1 and those changes all run together in the end but your pictures are only as good as the camera they were taken with".
It's for that reason (and because I like playing with new tech) that I upgrade yearly (upgrade program, I'm just perpetually paying a monthly fee for my phone). I'm well aware that this is "wasteful" or not the best financial decision for most people but it's a cost that I am happy to pay because upgrading and playing with the "new hotness" is fun for me. Also I always know I'm getting the best picture I could be getting (I'll never carry a dedicated camera so it's my phone or nothing).
"Upgrading" a device can very easily be a regression...
Camera, as you mentioned. But also the build quality, the display, the longevity (software updates last for years, so you can wait 4 or 5 years to upgrade). Personally I much prefer the software experience of iOS vs Android. The speed of the device, where you’re never waiting for something to respond.
But I once you go to the high levels, and looking between the normal and ‘Pro’ versions of flagship phones, it’s just the camera that separates them.
Like most things, you get what you pay for.
CPU performance, which in turns means overall system responsiveness as well as better web performance.
Memory, multiple App usage.
4G+ and 5G features. Their are differences, despite HN not knowing much about the subject.
Software update, do your 200 Euro phone get software update for 5+ years?
Camera, as others have mentioned already.
A lot, a lot of other minor details.
Another feature was that the speaker and microphone were located on the side edge of the phone; this often resulted in many describing it as talking into a "taco phone"[32] or "Sidetalking"
I would not be surprised if iPhone SE 2024 would be an iPhone Mini form factor.
Please, Pro shouldn't mean bigger and chunkier. Do what Apple does: standard, Max, Pro, Pro Max.
They're going to be prying my iPhone SE out of my cold, clenched hand when I die.
Enjoy your SE but larger phones are not a problem for the overwhelming majority of people.
You're just wrong.
Do customers actually like bigger phones with bigger screens?
Or were customers going to buy the latest phone anyways, and manufacturers are incorrectly assuming they bought the bigger phone because they wanted it?
And then the other question...when manufacturers bundle specific features with the larger size and leave them off the smaller size, are they assuming people are buying the larger phone because it's larger, and not because of the specific features of that model? Like, I bought a Pixel 6 Pro because of the better camera, not because it's larger.
is the iphone SE the best selling iphone? We've had multiple generations for people to do as you claim and say 'na didn't like it' but instead that's not what happens. they like phones with bigger screens.
>Like, I bought a Pixel 6 Pro because of the better camera, not because it's larger.
The pro was about 5mm longer than the non pro. The size variance was basically nill. in exchange for 5mm longer phone, the pro customers get and additional ~12mm2 of screen space. The whole thing is a red herring and nothing to do with the conversation.
Sales Data and Survey suggest yes. They are simply using it like a mini tablet.
This fact must be known to Apple and Google since they include an affordance where by double-tapping or swiping down on the screen the top half of the display moves into the bottom half. They know the median customer cannot possibly one-hand these phones.
Personally, it being circular with a curvy screen appeals to my watch aesthetic sense.
Personally I think I almost prefer charging "daily" because with my old Pebble watch it would last 2-4 days or so and since I wasn't in the habit I would always get caught with low battery. Even if the watch lasted a week I'd probably still charge nearly daily (maybe skip the charge if I'm not at my desk or on the weekend).
Anyway it seems Pixel 7 might be a good replacement. I might have to wait a bit though for initial reviews to come in as I don't like being a guinea pig.
Next phone I get will definitely not be a pixel. Hopefully the next fairphone will be a tad more competitive, and hopefully by then linux on the fairphone will be more polished. A boy can dream...
I've had battery discharge problems with the Pixel 4 and 5 just a few months out of warranty. Hope that's been fixed in more recent generations?
You don't let your phones sit on their chargers while at 100% battery, do you? I'm fairly sure that's what killed the batteries of my last two phones. My Pixel 3 was working fine until I started working from home and the phone rarely left the charger. After 3 months, the battery started swelling.
Yup guilty, I'm a bit neurotic about keeping things charged in case I need it later, didn't realize this affected battery life
TIL, thank you
[T] https://www.androidpolice.com/pixel-6-slow-fingerprint-senso...
The 6 pro is great on wifi or 4g. 5g kills the battery life and the modem heats up quickly which impacts the usability of the phone.
I like my 6pro. I do miss macro i had on a different phone, but if the modem is fixed then i would update right away.
I've just disabled 5G entirely and it results in a much better overall phone.
From https://www.androidpolice.com/google-tensor-g2-cpu-cores/
> Other improvements include a new modem — the Samsung S5300 — which will bring support for access to both unlicensed spectrum as well as satellite reception through 5G
This is compared to the Samsung 5123b used in the Pixel 6 Pro
I have not had data on my phone for the last 6 months and I wish everyone would do the same just for 3 months and we'd get European rates tomorrow.
I think you could use a better plan though - I'm paying what I thought were already exorbitant prices at $85 for 20 GB.
That is an absolutely awful idea and you couldn't pay me to use a Google VPN.
Not clear what Google is going for here, the Pixel line offers very little
Yeah, I guess you get new Android versions first, but who cares? The core OS upgrades now only seem to deliver notification and UI changes I don't care about or consider a net-negative. I'll get them eventually on my Galaxy phone, and they won't improve my life. Security and app updates aren't impacted.
A phone should be $300-400 not the ridiculous prices they're going for now.
I got a pixel 6a for $150 because I traded in my dying pixel 3a that was also losing software support, and they threw in a free pair of their wireless earbud things.
I do a lot of photography and the Pixel 6 Pro with the wide angle lens plus dedicated Telephoto 4x zoom lens covers like 90% of my needs. Other than true long exposure, super low light night shots, macro, and astrophotography, my Pixel 6 is great.
The phone is pretty nice, good screen, long battery life ....
Owning both Pixel 6 and Galaxy S22+, the S22 has a massive problem with slow shutter, movement and dark scenes (this issue I've observed on S22 Ultra as well).
So while Samsung might look better on paper, Pixel consistently takes better picture due to more responsive shutter and less blurry pictures.
My partner has a Samsung and she's fine with it. But having their own photo and calendar apps makes things super confusing when you're trying to share with another Android user using the Google standard apps.
If I were getting another Android, which I really wish I did, I wouldn't even consider anything but the Pixels...
My partner has many iPhones laying around but I simply could not deal with iOS. I bought a Pixel 2 as a temporary phone.
I bought an OG Pixel at launch, really enjoyed it, and then bought a Pixel 3 XL which was... rough for a while. I preferred both and their unlocked bootloaders to TouchWiz on any Galaxy I've owned or Samsung abandoning feature updates on my model after a year or two.
If you've never owned a Pixel, they're just generally good phones. Each one has a unique gimmick, and yeah, you're their QA team, but they're ultimately thoughtful, functional devices that show you ways to add value to the things you do.
my Pixel 4 will be being replaced with an iPhone
(the manifest v3 changes really piss me off)
The poster didn't say anything about the company still selling the product, only still supporting it. Which Apple has been doing for products from 5 years ago.
This was known from when it was first released; this wasn't some surprise "hey, we're dropping this, good luck!"
With the 6 and later they switched from 3 to 5: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en#zippy=...
But samsung phones using Qualcomm chips will get only 2-3 years of support.
*This rationale is seriously why the XBox 360 wasn’t the XBox 2. Which makes the XBox One all the more confusing.