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All of these little differences are exploited to become a tsunami.

Trump went to bed on election night assured that he had won.

I was no supporter of Trump, but I regret his passing in what has come.

We need accurate and transparent elections, full stop.

'The U.S. Supreme Court said in 2008 in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, “flagrant examples of such fraud … have been documented throughout this Nation's history by respected historians and journalists … [that] demonstrate that not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election.”'

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> Trump went to bed on election night assured that he had won.

This was painfully predictable. More conservative demographics preferred voting in person. Their votes were counted first, electronically. Paper mail in ballots were counted afterwards in many places.

I agree that we need accurate elections, but even if the link above only represents 1% of actual fraud, that still doesn’t amount to enough to change any elections.

Mail voting is not secure and you’re not being honest if you say it is. you’re also not being honest, if you conflate absentee with mail voting, where the stark difference is that one is requested in the other one is disseminated en mass. Also states like California require a new voter ID to confirm who you are so yeah, you can vote as your relative who has dementia and doesn’t show up. people act like cheating in elections pretty hard it’s actually pretty simple. It just requires organization do it at a large scale.

> you’re also not being honest, if you conflate absentee with mail voting, where the stark difference is that one is requested in the other one is disseminated en mass.

Nothing about mail in voting is inherently unsolicited. I requested my mail in ballot.

Painfully predictable only when considering mail in ballots as completely normal - mail in ballots at that volume never occurred, ever. That’s a fact. Knowing the person charged and how they went about their “business” — that one idiot could move 5-10k ballots in one populated county. that’s just one idiot, no extra team members, no support, simple small state

Right, when mail in ballots required an excuse to obtain, they had lower volume. When they were made available to everyone, in the middle of a pandemic, volume was greater. Go figure, people prefer voting from their couch on a Saturday as compared to voting in person on a Tuesday.

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