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I think this is a pivot society ought to make in a larger extent very soon. Applies to things like “nuclear extortion” ala Russian in Ukraine too.

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I am becoming more sympathetic to this, too. Real liberals (not necessarily leftists, although perhaps so) need to start punching back, hard. Slippery slopes are real and we're on one.

To reinforce the peace treaty of civil society everyone needs to push back against these “defections from peace.” It’s social contract stuff, too.

The alternative looks like a replay of all the worst stuff from social repression to actual nuclear war-given the misinformation propping up the Russian invasion of Ukraine and nuclear threats.

> Real liberals (not necessarily leftists, although perhaps so)

Leftists are 100% part of the problem here in the US, I'm not sure what you would need to be smoking to think otherwise.

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