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Quite evidently Ukrainians do not believe themselves to be Russian, are actively resisting Russian occupation, and will continue to until they fully push the incompetent Russian military off their land or Russia strikes a peace deal.
Ukrainian cities and apartment complexes have very much been struck by Russian cruise missiles and artillery. Russia has destroyed Ukrainian dams and power plants.
Truth be told, no one cares what you think in Russia. Ukrainians don’t see themselves as Russian, they see themselves as a separate people, and they will continue to be one since Russia is incapable of fielding a competent army.
If 16 or so HIMARS are so capable of destroying Russian ammo depots, why would the US be scared of Russia when they have 380 or so HIMARS in possession? Not to mention the US Air Force and Navy is so far beyond their Russian equivalents it’s like comparing an MMA fighter to a 5 year old child at karate for the first time. Russia hasn’t even deployed Su-57s or T-14s because they largely do not exist outside of useless prototypes. The US has 300+ F-35s and 180+ F-22s that are leaps and bounds better than anything Russia is flying, not to mention the fuck ton of F-15s and F-16s still in use.
And that’s just the USA. Fold the entirety of NATO into the equation and it’s obvious the Russian military does not hold the faintest thread to the US or NATO as a whole. Poland would crush Russia 1v1. The only thing Russia has going for it is nukes. Without them, it’s just a corrupt, broken, weak regional power. That’s really all it is with them.
Ukranian cities are absolutely being leveled by Russian munitions.
> or cut the Ukranian gas pipeline (which is the only source of reliable income for Ukraine for all 30 years of its existence).
The pipelines are the biggest source of money into Russia as well. Russia has tried to go around Ukraine with the NordStream2 pipeline, but NATO countries stalled that for years precisely because they didn't want to let Russia cut Ukraine out.
>Ukranian cities are absolutely being leveled by Russian munitions.
It's at least interesting to see first hand how deeply delusional and deceived about reality so many Russian citizens act, that they could make such blatantly false easily disproven claims that fly in the face of the harsh undeniable reality and indisputable objective evidence that Putin has been bombing Ukrainian cities into the ground and mass murdering civilians.
It makes me wonder if they're willingly in on the lies and supporting and spreading them well knowing they're false out of a misguided sense of patriotism and loyalty to Putin (or simply fear and desperation?), the same way Trump supporters are LARPing by denying he lost the election and making contradictory claims like FBI planted evidence that Trump telepathically declassified anyway, when they know quite well that's a bald faced lie, or if they're actually as naive and gullible and easily deceived as they're acting.
Who do they actually think they're fooling by parroting ridiculous mendacious lies like "This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities", if not only themselves?
Or they could be a paid troll? Most of their comment history consists of pro-Russian, anti-Western rants, with only a few tech-related things in between.
I find it hard to believe that everything we see is western propaganda. One of the reasons for this is that the Russian propagandists on TV proudly boast about committing genocide, are the Russian tv shows western propaganda now?.
Are the videos of the Russian tanks firing on fleeing civilians Western propaganda ?
Are the multiple independent reports that show Russia is committing atrocities such as raping and torturing adults and children in Ukraine western propaganda?.
Are the mass graves in multiple Ukrainian cities Western propaganda?.
Well, lots of them definitely are fake. Ukraine government had even to fire one of its propagandists because she started creating such an absurd fakes about rapes that nobody could believe this and it undermined the influence of Ukranian propaganda. Her name was Ludmila Denisova.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2022/09/update-chair-ind...
ill quote it for you.
"The Commission has documented cases in which children have been raped, tortured, and unlawfully confined. Children have also been killed and injured in indiscriminate attacks with explosive weapons. The exposure to repeated explosions, crimes, forced displacement and separation from family members deeply affected their well-being and mental health.".
You sure about that one ?
> This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities
It is well documented. You did destroyed multiple Ukrainian cities. You did tortured and committed massacres. Your soldiers rape kids, women, old.
> We understand that they're people pumped by the Nazi propaganda to be used by the West to attack Russia, because NATO and/or USA are too afraid to attack Russia directly.
No you dont. The right wing neonazi groups are strong in Russia.
This simple fact, and what it tells about what Ukraine means to Russia, never gets to western ears for some reason.
Is your indefensible conspiracy theory that these are all deep faked videos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvi7QFJYv_k
>Ukrainian cities bombed: Russian strikes spread from east to west
>Russian strikes hit the capital, Kyiv, and Kharkiv and Kramatorsk in the east, causing deaths, Ukrainian officials say. Missiles destroy an aircraft repair plant near the airport in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv, Mayor Andriy Sadovy says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e42F1V3AOq4
>Russia accused of using cluster bombs as fighting rages in Ukraine’s cities - BBC News
>Heavy fighting has taken place in several cities across Ukraine.
>Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second city, has seen some of the fiercest battles with Russian forces accused of using cluster munitions. Many civilians are reported to have been killed.
>Thousands more people have been trying to flee the country, adding to a growing refugee crisis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uuoo3wm69U
>Russia continues to shell newly-liberated city after Ukraine's counter-offensive – BBC News
>Ukraine's counter-offensive in the northern Kharkiv region has put the Kremlin on the back foot, Western analysts and politicians have said.
>This is said to explain President Vladimir Putin's mobilisation announcement, which could see 300,000 Russian’s summoned to serve in the war.
>The Ukrainian military is now trying to consolidate those recent gains.
>However, the city of Kupiansk, which was recently taken back from the Russians, is still coming under attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTgiVwRLx-g
>Russia intensifies bombardment of Ukrainian cities
>Russian forces are setting their sights on the capital city of Kyiv, advancing to the doorstep of the city. Satellite images show Russian artillery bombarding Kyiv as fierce fighting continues in many other parts of the country. Cities in eastern and southern Ukraine are under a sustained Russian onslaught.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-isnt-naive-zele...
>Russia bombs Ukraine cities, despite pledge to pull back from Kyiv
>MALA ROHAN/NEAR IRPIN, Ukraine, March 30 (Reuters) - Russian forces bombarded the outskirts of Kyiv and a besieged city in northern Ukraine on Wednesday after promising to reduce attacks there in what the West dismissed as a ploy by Moscow to stem its heavy losses and regroup for other offensives.
https://www.ft.com/content/e51014c3-0b97-4a3d-8a19-bc49b3ccd...
Russia steps up bombardment of Ukraine’s biggest cities
>Vladimir Putin’s forces adopt more aggressive tactics in bid to regain momentum on sixth day of invasion
>Russia stepped up its bombardment of Ukraine’s biggest cities, firing missiles on targets in populated areas as Vladimir Putin’s forces turned to more brutal military tactics in a bid to regain momentum on the sixth day of the invasion.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/11/russia-widens-...
>Russia widens attack with airstrikes on western Ukraine cities
>Airfields far from the main areas of war hit, while convoy near Kyiv seems to have dispersed into firing positions
Be aware there's full blown propaganda on both sides.
War is war, deaths are deaths, but they do not come just like that. There's tension that builds up with time and what has the US done to ease that tension ?
Russia is saying plainly and repeatedly that they're not at war with Ukraine but with the US/NATO. Let's face reality.
"You're a propagandist while I'm not" is quite laughable I'm afraid.
You're absolutely right that war doesn't just happen. Putin made a conscious choice to invade a neighboring country, and one with which you'd had close ties at that, leading to all of this suffering and needless death. The only thing that isn't obvious here is whether you believe what you're saying or are intentionally spreading nonsense.
Why so ? Don't be so lazy.