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Plus, it would mean people would stop just incrementing a number at the end if it revealed their pattern.

If companies want us to stop incrementing a number (guilty!) or writing our passwords on post-its stuck on our monitors, they should stop requiring us to change our passwords every freaking month. I think it was only in 2021 that NIST suggested the password change frequency should be yearly.

I think NIST has actually recommended against forced rotation of passwords (unless they are breached) since at least 2017.

"Verifiers SHOULD NOT impose other composition rules (e.g., requiring mixtures of different character types or prohibiting consecutively repeated characters) for memorized secrets. Verifiers SHOULD NOT require memorized secrets to be changed arbitrarily (e.g., periodically). However, verifiers SHALL force a change if there is evidence of compromise of the authenticator."

- NIST SP-800-63B Digital Identity Guidelines - Authentication and Lifecycle Management

A large part of me wishes they made this a SHALL NOT. It would have caused chaos with other standards, but it would have been the right thing to do.

You underestimate how much people care about a revealed password. I've definitely heard water cooler talk about how some have "beat the system" by using a certain password (That they just tell the person they're talking to!) and the year.

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