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> Like JavaScript, yet another language written for bad to average developers to keep them from shooting themselves in the foot.

I can't imagine anyone ever describing vanilla JavaScript this way.

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Yeah, made me reread the whole message with my sarcasm checker turned up. I can’t recall another widely used language of the era with as many foot-guns or one that went so long without a decent debugging experience.

It really draws into question the claim that “it's easier to write super complex stuff in C++ than in Rust” when so clearly incorrect about JS. Especially when we have _decades_ of evidence from world-stopping vulnerabilities in the C/C++ ecosystem.

> I can’t recall another widely used language of the era with as many foot-guns or one that went so long without a decent debugging experience.

As someone who was writing both in the 2000s: PHP fits this "nicely" haha

With JS I meant it was something to run in a browser, nothing serious (initially). So from the historic perspective it was correct as for the reason why it existed. It was not meant to write multithreaded system services where most bad/average devs struggle (and it's not multithreaded to this day outside webworkers).

I describe it that way. Like everything else in life the path to success is short if you don’t get distracted by unnecessary conventions and a series of bad decisions.

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