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Can we stop the trend of linking to tweets that just contain another link to the content? what's the point? Wouldn't this be 10x better if it was a link directly to the github?

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I like the Twitter linking since it's almost like the OP is giving credit to where they found the information from.

Agreed. If you only know this from someone else's observation, you should link the observation.

That is against HN guidelines: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Hot take, but that guideline is just bad. It removes necessary context and may even obscure relevant developments in a public dialogue. Original posts make sense only if the repost is not adding to the dialogue or otherwise making interesting contributions.

(If you disagree, this may the one time I will actively ask you to flag this post, so a mod can respond to this point)

Perhaps some sort of convention, like /r/science could be followed (like having OP post a link to the article or reference as a top comment).

This. Whenever I post a comic and something funny comic on Twitter/FB (i put credit: URL their home page or IG), but on Reddit, there is no such thing. Most Reddit admins also ban direct linking to sources due to spam or remote server overloading. So instead, you need to use Imgur or Reddit's hosting. So I write a comment saying credit which often gets enough upvotes to push at the top of the thread. I think those content creators deserve traffic and recognition too. It is good karma for everyone.

Citing the guidelines is against the guidelines, if not by the letter, in spirit. It's boring and it lacks curiosity. It assumes too much about the sharer. "Can we stop this trend" is a dog whistle for the "HN is getting worse" complaint.

Instead we could be considering if we're meant to read the Twitter conversation as well, or sharing a laugh about the link in the tweet author's bio. Or maybe the sharer didn't feel comfortable enough seeming like they made the claim but still wanted to share it because it's kind of cool.

AFAIK there's no junior HN mod of the year award.

If guidelines were not to be cited, who would it guide?

How can I read the Twitter conversation when Twitter asks me to log in? :-)

With Nitter: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Extensions

cf. paywalls

I'm in stitches that my other comment was flagged at 0 min. Don't ever change, you guys ;-)

I was thinking the same thing; link to the file on Github, with the same title text as is there now, and it saves me an extra click. And any time I don't have to visit Twitter, I consider that a win.

I often share links to HN instead of the referred link. Many times the comments are as interesting as the content. This applies to sharing Twitter or Reddit links, too, albeit with a lower S/N ratio.

Is there some trick to actually being able to see information on Twitter? When I click a tweet, I get the tweet, then a random smattering of 2-3 semi-related tweets, and then a login popup that breaks the page

Do you guys use an extension to process it or something?

(Same issue with Reddit of course)

replace "twitter.com" with "nitter.net", or for video embedding (discord, etc) use vxtwitter.com or fxtwitter.com. Tweetdeck is what a lot of twitter people use for "serious twittering" (lol).

For reddit use old.reddit.com instead of www.reddit.com. Reddit is Fun is a great native app for android and on iOS there's Apollo.

Both sites are laser-focused on driving conversions and engagement which means forcing you into an account and native apps (specifically their shitty native apps), and undoubtedly they'll start breaking the workarounds and third-party clients for realsies at some point.

But I mean, if users don't even have an account and native app install, how can they possibly get you doomscrolling all day? It's 2022, it's all about the engagement metrics, fuck user experience.

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