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It's still actively developed just under different name

I think it's my longest used app in desktop already since previous millennium, followed by TCMD and IrfanView.

edit: tried to install new Winamp and unlike WACUP ir requires me to install also Microsoft Visual C++ which also requires computer restart, all of this to use dumb music player? not very user friendly, no other app in desktop missed it

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Microsoft is the one to complain to, not Winamp.

Now that Winamp has resumed development what place does WACUP have?

I wanted to like WACUP but found it very crashy.

Most of the crashes tend to be due to the parts re-used from 5.666. Also it's a preview build (aka public beta) so it can & will be unstable.

As for what place it has, I'm going to still make it because I've very clearly been made unwelcome to remain as a "winamp" user plus I don't like where it's owners are taking it with all of the ntf related stuff & taking the piss out of the user base for so long. So if I want to have something that can keep my plug-ins working then I've got to make my own player which is what I'm doing.

-dro

Other than the crashing I'm quite pleased with it, the working upscaling is enough to replace winamp on my 4K machines

You're saying its a reimplementation of part of Winamp? Cool, I thought you were splicing in new functionality to the existing binaries

I had been doing that much more early on along with replacing some of the plug-ins & dlls. After a point the reality dawned that I was replacing so much that I was on the road to making my own player. Also how things have gone with the owners I just don't want to be doing anything that uses their offerings

There's still some live patching / splicing needed for some of the plug-ins that are still re-used from 5.666 as part of the current beta builds along with WACUP having the ability to run minus EQ & modern skin without the winamp core exe. As there's a few things from that exe which the modern skin plug-in requires to work which I've yet to work out all of the interfaces to allow the plug-in to work. It's part of what's been holding up a new preview build as I just need to be as free from having to leverage bits from Winamp as possible.

-dro

In my opinion, WACUP is a truer Winamp than Winamp is. Winamp was bought and sold and none of the original developers are there. It looks like a cash grab on the name to my eyes. On the other hand, DrO was an original developer and keeps the spirit of Winamp living in WACUP.

Sorry to hear you were having crashing issues. Mine has been stable but I also spent some time going through all the settings and dialing it in exactly as I wanted. I run it at 2x scaling on a 4K monitor and it looks terrific in all it's pixelated glory.

Is that a fork of the same closed source code base?

Or is it a new project designed to be backwards compatible?

It's a gradual reimplementation whilst using some of the pre-compiled 5.666 exe / dll (how much depends on the build being used) with the end goal for WACUP to not require the 5.666 files, be plug-in compatible & it's own thing.

-dro

Same here. Never stopped using winamp since the beginning. ) Uh-oh. Looks like they've moved to VS2019. Do you know if it still runs on Win7?

It works without actually restarting for me

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