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Wow, this is the most entitled attitude I've seen in a long time. You let your kids play online, where they can communicate with basically anyone. So the solution is to grant a central authority total power to ban anyone who doesn't comply with the standards you want for your children.

This is the online equivalent of a homophobe complaining that two men holding hands in the park will turn their children gay.

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Bit of a wild comparison. It's more like the online equivalent of someone getting kicked out of Legoland for swearing around the children.

Sure, if every group of friends had their own tiny version of Legoland and Lego corporate could ban you from all of them.

Minecraft wasn’t built as a kids game. It was a neat indie game that let you build stuff.

On kid-specific servers that might be an apt analogy, but adult-owned, adult-populated servers shouldn’t have to worry about malicious trolls ruining their experience with a ban.

It's more the equivalent of getting banned from driving because someone reported you to Honda, and Honda didn't verify anything.

Nope, not at all, because it applies to privately run servers. It's the equivalent of breaking into my house and stealing my Legos, based on somebody's statement that I swore around children who happened to be near Legos.

I bought Minecraft in 2011. Every few years since then, I would get friends back together, host a new server, and catch up while playing. I bought the software, I host the server, I ban people if need be, and how dare Microsoft treat it as their walled garden.

I understand your point, but I would be upset if I took my family to Chuck E Cheese's and there was a table full of adults loudly talking about their raunchy escapades from the night before. I think it is a fair assumption that a child's game will have clean chat.

It's Chuck E Cheese's. Pretty sure that is a private business. They can mostly do what they want in most jurisdictions. If you want to censor communication in your own home, go for it.

If I paid for a license for Minecraft Java edition, why can't my friends and I play and communicate as we see fit?

Private business like Chuck E Cheese will ask you to tone it down or leave in such situation.

Oh yeah, I bet the underpaid fast food worker will risk getting beat up by urban youth.

Interesting that you specify "urban youth" when rural youth is no less violent, actually. Rural tough guy being rough is an euphemism for "violent". That being said, businesses pay security that exists for that purpose. Either they have own employees or they pay fee to a company to provide it as service. All the fast food worker has to do is to call.

The genuinely, the original situation does not sound like involving violence.

I think with Minecraft it's closer to the difference between a Chuck E Cheese and a barcade. Both are arcades, but one is specifically for kids and families while the other is an explicitly adult space.

Except the child audience didn't appear until 5 years into minecraft's life, so it'd be like your local barcade deciding they're pivoting to targeting kids now so please get out

I don't have that expectation and don't want to have it (my son is a Minecraft enthusiast).

Folks from the US need to stop imposing their backwards values on the rest of us.

1. A cool game comes out. 2. I love to play the game with my adult friends. 3. as the game gets more mainstream attention, more and more kids join in. 4. I have to moderate myself because some stupid parent determined that it's now a "kids" game and everyone should cater to their crotchrats.

Why does this keep happening to all games i like?

I know minecraft might be an extreme example because it has simple graphics and no violence but it happens even on VR Military Shooters.

No. just be a decent parent and don't assume that the internet is a free daycare.

Sorry, i just hate this "its a game tho it's obviously meant for kids" attitude

> 4. I have to moderate myself because some stupid parent determined that it's now a "kids" game and everyone should cater to their crotchrats.

I'm sorry, but I can't imagine being this upset at children. If I'm at a bar and I see a kid walk in, yes I will act differently because they are in earshot. It doesn't matter that the child is in an adult space.

"Well I was here first" is such an immature dismissal of acknowledging how your community is changing.

A more apt comparison would be you enjoying a drink in your own home (your server) and then because kids starting playing outside you'd be banned from your home for drinking there. Forever.

There seems to be a big misconception here that minecraft started with a focus on young kids, when it started with a focus on teenagers/young adults, 4chan for one was an absolutely huge part of its audience during its early days, we are not talking about a mlp situation here.

That aside, dedicated servers.

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