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You’ve guessed incorrectly how much the average citizen cares about standing up to Putin. Most people believe that the consequences of not standing up to him would be far worse

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Impressive how much propaganda can achieve. The average citizen also wanted to stand up to Saddam, Gaddafi, xi , Al Assad before they take over the world

> Impressive how much propaganda can achieve.

Alanis Morissette missed a lyric.

Interesting how people care about Ukraine where Russian actions are arguably very localized to military targets but no one is concerned for over 500k dead in Iraq and their current civil war, all caused by certain NATO countries. Half of the ME is on fire, but no one care. Just a bunch of hypocrites.

> Russian actions are arguably very localized to military targets

I don’t think anyone believes this.

Your comment is whataboutism at a grand level. It is possible to oppose slaughtering people wherever they live.

Yet people didn’t oppose when their own governments were slaughtering people. Countries ruined for decades if not centuries. Whataboutism would be if I justified Russian actions, but I’m not doing that. I’m looking at the western butchers pointing fingers at Russian butchers. Hypocrite.

12 of current EU members lived under Russian occupation for >40 years.

And still, a considerable amount of people in Hungary (in my opinion 40%+, mostly from the poorer demographics) are strongly opposed to sanctions against Russia if that means the utility costs increase. I bet the memory of the countries on Russia's border function better, but don't underestimate the power of falling living standards paired with wishful thinking (that is, Russia will stop definitely at Ukraine's borders).

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