Comment by cwizou | Hacker News Reader

Comment by cwizou | Hacker News Reader

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Thanks for posting the link, some extra tidbits I saw :

- Feb 22, arm announced to Qualcomm that Nuvia's ALA/TLA licenses would be terminated in March 1st 22 (for the reasons from parent post)

- On April 1st, arm counsel acknowledged the termination of the licenses and that Nuvia was in compliance (aka destroyed the designs under the license they had obtained, which is in the ALA contract)

- On multiple occasions afterwards Qualcomm asked arm to validate "new core designs" to be used on upcoming products (!)

- Qualcomm PR/CEO kept talking about upcoming product based on Nuvia's work, while the license was effectively revoked, and was planning to sample such chips

It will be interesting to see Qualcomm's counterclaims, but arm's factual presentation seems pretty clear and doesn't paint Qualcomm under a very flattering light. Arm's complaint all in all looks pretty reasonable (again, we only have one side of the story, but there's some pretty obvious bad faith from Qualcomm here).

Thanks. On top, for those who want to expand another bracket of detail:

- On Feb22 ARM announced the termination of Nuvia's license.

- "On February 23, 2022, Qualcomm confirmed that it was still developing the relevant Nuvia technology by stating in a court filing that certain Nuvia documents were based on “years of research and work” and would “reveal secret design components of Qualcomm chips that are still in development."

- "On March 1, 2022, the Nuvia licenses terminated, along with the corresponding rights to use or sell products based on or incorporating Nuvia technology developed under those licenses."*

- "Qualcomm further told Arm that it planned to “redeploy NUVIA employees” and “transfer NUVIA’s work” to Qualcomm and, consistent with that plan, Qualcomm has on-boarded Nuvia’s leadership and employees as Qualcomm employees".

- "Arm wrote Qualcomm clarifying that neither Nuvia nor Qualcomm was authorized to continue working on technology that was developed under the Nuvia licenses."

- "Two weeks later, Qualcomm sought Arm’s verification that a new Qualcomm processor core complied with Arm architecture so that it could be verified and incorporated into a product."

- "In June 2022, Qualcomm’s CEO reiterated that it would soon begin “sampling” Nuvia chips to companies, allowing them to design electronic devices incorporating the chips in the “next year.”19 Based on that timeline, he explained, “[i]n late next year, beginning 2024, you’re going to see Windows PCs powered by Snapdragon with a Nuvia-designed CPU.”"

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