Victims are often frightened enough to not come forward. The kind of trial by social media in which you're now engaged is all part of that. Why allege anything when you'll be accused of making it up, being a slut, having your life history raked through by trolls online...
"Hunted by his money" ffs. "Without more data". Have some empathy.
Also note that he is NOT "being sued for sweet money" but criminally charged by a prosecutor. They don't do that unless they have strong evidence and there's no compensation to victims in a criminal trial.
The accused can also have their lives raked through and ruined simply for being accused. There is something to gain (e.g. financial and moral support, feeling as though one were on the "right" side of history, etc.) from being a professional victim, and doubly so on social media. Whether that applies here remains to be seen.
> "Hunted by his money" ffs. "Without more data". Have some empathy.
Empathy: The ability to identify with or understand another's situation or feelings
Waiting for data and considering the potential motivations involved are empathetic actions. It may be simplistic to make such claims, but there is no lack of empathy to consider that these situations can occur and have occurred to other people and that they might be applicable here. At the end of the day, no one here was present when the alleged events occurred. We're all relying on news reports and hearsay.
> Also note that he is NOT "being sued for sweet money" but criminally charged by a prosecutor. They don't do that unless they have strong evidence and there's no compensation to victims in a criminal trial.
Any evidence obtained in a criminal trial can be used in a civil trial with a lower burden of proof, even if one is acquitted in the former. Additionally, prosecutors have issued charges on exaggerated, or even fraudulent evidence before. The Innocence Project is a testament the consequences of zealousness and lack of impartiality that occurs in courts across the country.
In what is likely a to be a he said/she said scenario, one should wait to examine how damning the evidence and testimony actually is so as not to come to a premature conclusion.
Did his hand brush her throat?
What was her immediate description of what happened to the very first person she told?
These other acts you describe, were they accusations or facts?
You are literally engaging in trial by social media asserting claims as fact when they are accusations.
“They don’t do that unless they have strong evidence” - spoken like someone who has only ever read about the criminal justice system. The news has been filled with stories of unjust actions the entire length of Covid.
You don’t understand how things work. If you can get a criminal charge to stick, then you can threaten to settle out of court for money (with the woman) to avoid her bringing a civil trial.
Is she lying? I have no idea, but your argument is as bad as “that black man wouldn’t be charged by the police for raping that white woman if he didn’t do it. The white woman wouldn’t lie, it must be so scary for her to come forward”. Literally this except replace black with “rich”, the new boogie-man.
Dude should have an internal recorder in his car, like an Uber driver. It would either save him from false accusations or himself.
I hope the truth is uncovered in court and we find justice.
That is - at the very least - a credible accusation.
According to the article, he also literally had sex with his partner while she was under the influence, without her consent.
Please don't minimise victims trauma.
It takes an insane amount of courage to come forth publicly with the kinds of accusations these women are bringing, and a history of men victim blaming women is why so many abusers roam our midst with impunity. When I hear these kinds of accounts, I typically have more reasons to distrust the accused abuser who is usually the person wielding more power in the whole system.
as you can see, this is at odds with the prior posters observation and puts you both at an impasse
I can empathize with the limitations of evidence and the limitations of the law as a reflection of the culture
that alone doesn’t help me pick a side based on any “lived experience” or power dynamic
But for anyone reading this: don’t put your hands on people necks just because of the lack of evidence or consequences. Its very abusive to target people that made a permanent digital message of flirting with you, or targeting people that you know made a white lie sometime in their life that you can use against them if they ever go to the police about something else, society relies on the mutual cooperation of everyone at all times
"Innocent before proven guilty" is an important concept, but, I wouldn't pin the women as guilty of lying either