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Scrum is ritual heavy process by definition. There is no way to do scrum without being heavy on process or dogmatic. The moment you start doing that, your process cease to he Scrum (and any advocate will point at your difference against process as reason why it issues are not cause by Scrum and why it is not scrum)

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I found Kanban a lot better for this. You have a sorted list of tasks, and you can only work on a small amount of them at once. A lot less time is spent estimating tasks to fit them in a pointless two week bucket.

Backlog grooming can be done asynchronously, constantly. The PM can push a task to the top without making the developers work harder this sprint. They can go faster or get delayed, because they don't have to meet the arbitrary requirements of a sprint.

Scrum is waterfall in disguise and it always has been. I have never seen scrum be anything but a catastrophe, or a token gesture to appease those who would replace accountability with process.

Scrum doesn't work unless the whole organisation implements it.

Thing is, Scrum doesn't work for most of the organization.

Sales use a sales funnel as their guiding organizational tool. IT operations and support do reactionary work on incoming tickets, and some rather routine and planned projects. HR is almost all routine paperpushing. Legal has to take the time it takes to answer the questions they get, because they have to answer correctly. Market analysis is timeboxed analysis - a spike in agile lingo. Hardware design is innately waterfall. Hardware production is just mindless repetitiveness as fast as you can go... and so on...

They're all different!

I have seen scrum turn into hell more then once and it had zero to do with rest of organization doing anything. Literally each time, there was no evil customer pressuring us too much or making bad demands, nothing like that.

Is it a heavy process when you compare it to stuff like Scaled Agile Framework (https://www.scaledagileframework.com/)?

Honestly, from all I've heard and read about "SAFe", it feels like "Take the already-not-very-agile Scrum, and squeeze the last vestiges of agility out of it to make it Enterprise Certified".

Genuinely, I have no idea. Never seen that in practice and I am reading about it first time. That is based on first quick glance at the link you sent.

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