Hacker News Reader

Comment by sunsetandlabrea | Hacker News Reader

This is pretty disingenuous I think. Other than Android who is using RCS?

Why can't I message between WhatsApp and an RCS client. Or any other chat technology, how about Google Chat to RCS, or Slack to RCS, or anything else.

Their examples for 'the modern standard adopted by most of the mobile world': Motorola, OnePlus, Google Pixel, Samsung, Snapdragon are all providers of Android phones, so clearly they would use the default Android messaging service.

I have a few folk (mostly family) who uses Apple messaging, everyone else seems to be on WhatsApp.

View on HN

> Other than Android who is using RCS?

Don't forget Android has over 80% world-wide market share.

This is like saying Windows is the standard operating system.

My point still stands they are saying adopt our technology, but being disingenuous by calling it a standard.

Besides that how many people are using WhatsApp instead on both iPhone and Android.

No, it is not. The RCS standards are managed by the GSMA.

It is supported by many companies, one of which is Google.

Google RCS isn’t the same as the carriers RCS, and the carriers support different versions.

So where is it used except Android? With any market share that makes it significant beyond android?

According to the sources I was able to find, iOS and Android collectively make up more than 99% of the smart phone market. There isn’t any significant market share outside of Android because there is no significant market outside of Android.

Nowhere because it requires a phone company SIM. No SIM no RCS. So no RCS between a tablet and phone or two tablets or a PC and phone. Also, ever so wonderfully, carrier provided RCS has no E2EE. So you need Google's app using their RCS gateway to have E2EE only between Google messages users.

That's a weird reply when a market has mostly two players. By definition there won't be any other significant market share.

That's my point, it maybe a standard but for all intents and purposes it is just used by a single player.

It's used by the manufacturers of phones, not just the Android base system. You don't need to be on the Google Messages app to use RCS. Eg it's supported on Samsung.

A lot of Android handset manufacturers do not in fact leave the default X in place for most X.

It's no different than half a dozen web "standards" Google invented like Web Serial, WebUSB, Web MIDI, etc. Google implemented it on their monopoly platform, and then declared it a "standard" and started getting their staff to start trying to shame everyone else for not adopting it as such.

Actually it came from the GSMA https://www.gsma.com/futurenetworks/rcs/

Reply on news.ycombinator.com