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I genuinely don’t believe you’re coming at this from a business stakeholder POV, which is fair for HN. But if you have to advocate for a devops org outside of some massive global scale or as a small % of revenue, you’re doing something wrong.

Unfortunately a proven playbook for struggling devops teams is to just fire all the devops and infra folks, which seems to help with platform stability, recruiting, and velocity year over year.

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Your opening assumption is false. I start and run businesses.

Any reference to “devops team” is also automatically failing at devops. It’s not a job, a task, or a team. I don’t spare much time for folks encumbered by a silo mindset. It’s the antithesis of a service/product-team approach, and (to the actual point) does nothing to oppose the myopia I’m accusing the JS ecosystem of.

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