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With all respect possible, you generated something that a professional will create for 20 minutes on a napkin (in the context of logo idea).

Maybe your perception of "logo" needs more reference points. For example, this gallery of classics in Brand Identity will be a good starting point(use the triangles on top to navigate): https://www.joefino.com/logos_html/L01_Xpand.html

There is no doubt in my mind that the next iterations of neural networks will remove all "overpaid" and "overconfident" design professionals, that's why I adapted to the reality and moved to frontend development. All of this with clear realization that everything humans can do for a production processes will be augmented and removed. The nasty "humans" always want to be paid, more and more. They want to have rights and privileges. What a hassle.:)

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> With all respect possible, you generated something that a professional will create for 20 minutes on a napkin (in the context of logo idea).

I feel like I understand where you're coming from, but often the phrase I hear by experts (I even use this myself in my space) is, "Sure, it only took 20 minutes to do this wiring/write this code/draw this logo, but it took 5 years to know what to make." Sure, the results aren't what you'd get if you paid a professional logo designer, but if you can get close enough, it's really cutting out the X years training necessary to get to that point.

>it's really cutting out the X years training necessary to get to that point.

This is exactly my point. With repetition and solid design foundation comes the intuition what is the right direction towards the accomplishing of the given task.

Some will say the design is a subjective, I would argue that designers' role is to move towards objectivity and away from the idea of "personal taste".

That's why I give a link to the works of the master in this craft. This is exactly the same argument with the Copilot case. Is it capable to give some "boilerplate" solution - yes. Is this solution mediocre at best - yes.

The real question is how soon will GPT-3(4?) replace commenters on websites like this one, and whether you will even be able to tell.

This is most certainly already happening. I find it kind of annoying not to know with certainty whether or not I'm engaging with a Genuine Human(TM) or not.

I'm unsure if it's confirmation bias, but I find myself noticing weird abberations in online comments that don't seem to be ESL related. (edit: it's probably just mobile swipe typing at play)

Your "real question" ultimately resolves itself because the moment the novelty wears off (and it will happen very fast), nobody will be interested in chatting with "robots".

Sure, I am the secret GPT 5 experiment. Now you got me. Congrats:)

Exactly how I'd expect a GPT experiment to reply! ;)

We'll hardly be able to tell the difference, if at all. Maybe it doesn't matter as long as the conversation is engaging for the human.

Yep. Interesting times ahead of us:) How we will be able to tell the difference? QR Code/Genetic sample government approved app for human verification?

And what when people are certain that the machines are better in everything, who will want to chat, listen to music or watch paintings from the "lame" humans, when the robots will be the ultimate solution for every human need?

As the tech stands today, mediocre artists, designers, writers and content creators are likely going to be replaced entirely with AI.

I imagine it would make it very easy to “seed” a website or a platform with initial “users” and content.

I also imagine it will be (and likely is already) being deployed to create the impression of popular support (or lack thereof) of a politician, business or policy.

Probably that was done first.

You could of also paid a human to carry your comment all the way over to me so I could read it and reply like I am doing so now.

What an intelligent and educating response. My comment may come as salty, but if you make an effort to visit the linked gallery, maybe you will have more "fresh perspective":)

If someone wants to pay a lot of money to a professional to create their brand identity that option is always there.

If someone else just needs something simple and passable there is Dalle.

And I’m sure there is every option in between where someone can use Dalle as a starting point and pass it to a pro, or a pro would even use Dalle as a way to brainstorm options.

Dalle is a tool that has empowered everyone. It shouldn’t be seen from a stereotypical luddite perspective as in your first post.

But how many iterations would I go through with the professional to get to the idea that isn't actually in my head, and how much would that cost me?

The thing I think I like about this is I can meander through a few different concept on my own time.

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