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you can extend this to everything. are you ok your children reciving gore pics, are you ok your kids receiving anarchyst cookbooks, are you ok your kids receiving comunist propoganda? are you ok your kids receiving any random messges from anonymous users? if not i guess just whitelist contacts your kid is allowed to interact. but i myself prefere to talk about world and explain how things work and what you can expect to encounter when growing up rather than growing your kid in petri dish. eventualy they will see errect penis :)

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I have a 5 y.o. daughter and two nephews: 6 and 11 y.o. I like seeing them grow in real world.

There will always be perverts sending nudes to kids one way or another. Where I grew (before the internet) we've had them arrested near schools.

Pretending the world is all unicorns and rainbows is not the way to raise your children IMO - the hard truth is going to hit them sooner or later. Talk to them, treat them as young adults, and explain what is good and what is not, and why.

Fun story: I'm into crossfit semi-professionally and I've recently been very pleased to hear my 5 y.o. telling her friends that they should not eat that much fries and coke if they want to stay healthy and suggested they try fish and chicken instead.

>Fun story: I'm into crossfit semi-professionally and I've recently been very pleased to hear my 5 y.o. telling her friends that they should not eat that much fries and coke if they want to stay healthy and suggested they try fish and chicken instead.

I actually find it scary. I believe that children need to experience the maximum of stuff, and as a French they need to taste all the food, whatever unhealthy they are. Schools are a already pushing a lot of propaganda on children about saving the planet. I can see that the next step will be to tell them that meat pollute and they should be vegan to save the planet.

My child is sometimes telling me things like this and I tell him that he is totally healthy and does not need to worry.

> they need to taste all the food

that's a good stand to have, and I would argue that the kid tried to concur:

>> eat that much fries and coke

>> try fish and chicken instead

"that much" (!= never) and "try" (!= have to) seem to be key in the dialog here, although from these excerpts only we get a highly decontextualised version. nonetheless to me it sounded like they always indulge in the same food

> experience the maximum of stuff ... need to taste all the food

Now replace food with drugs, how would you feel? coz TBH some food out there borderlines on being drug-like in terms of addictiveness, both when ingested and how they're being advertised.

The way we raise our child is try food, sure, but be mindful of what you eat. we're certainly not opposed to bad food once in a while, forbidding it would only make it that more alluring. also being healthy right now doesn't mean bad habits can't creep in, and healthy habits are tough to instill after the fact once bad habits have taken hold.

For the healthy food you just need to train them to eat vegetable, and that is easy if you start young. My kids have no issue with vegetables at all, with food in general actually, they are not fussy. But I will not disallow junk food, anyway they are not so fond of it.

>Now replace food with drugs, how would you feel? coz TBH some food out there borderlines on being drug-like in terms of addictiveness, both when ingested and how they're being advertised.

Well, I also have a big one, nearly 18, and I don't understand him at all. He is spending his free time at the gym, he tells me he goes with his friends. At his age I was trying drugs and binge drinking. I'm in total disconnect here...

This strongly depends on the age of the child, and their maturity. I have an eight year old, who currently doesn’t even have a phone. Once he does I will absolutely be whitelisting contacts, approving app installs, and turning on functionality to limit access to content unsuitable for a child.

That’s not to say I won’t also be talking about the world, and things they’re likely to encounter. Those conversations are happening even now, he’s not being raised in a petri dish, but equally I’d quite like to avoid throwing him directly into a vat of toxic waste unprepared if I can avoid that. Ultimate children are just that, children, they’re not renowned for solid decision making skills.

How old are your kids?

to clearify apple feature looks reasonable to me. 4 and 7. ... and now im questioning my previous comment in my head about how certain i am about what i wrote :)

I think the more important question is how old are your kids?

Between 15 and 23. It's easy to live in a utopian ideal where you say "We'll talk to them about all of this, and they'll be rational and see sense", but having spent the last 3+ years firefighting the impact of their spectacularly stupid behaviour (all 4 kids are above average IQ, but all of them have ASD diagnoses, all of them fall into the 'loud, confident and wrong' category) - a lot of which has involved impact with people whose opinions are along the lines of free speech absolutists mixed with 8chan lunacy - whenever I see people crowing about how terrible all these ideas are, I think they probably haven't spent sleepless nights comforting their child's mother because one of the kids has spent another night in a hospital, institution or police custody because of undue influence placed on them whether it's because of social pressure, or because they've been convinced by a nutter to send nudes and use that against them.

I'm well aware you can't protect them from all these things, but a lot of people who have young kids seem to think that as soon as they get to school it'll all be OK. My experience has been that the games get harder and stakes rise drastically, to the point where I often consider that killing myself would be a logical way out.

>you can extend this to everything

Doing nothing until you can do 100% of everything is not how anything works.

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