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it's not the name servers' job to deal with any of that, especially on the clearnet

It's the host of those name servers' job, yes.

you're arguing that its yellow pages job to remove the entry for businesses that violate laws. not only is that not the case, that's profoundly absurd.

It is! If a doctor listed on yellow pages is not really a doctor then they shouldn't be there to mislead people. This analogy extends wonderfully, really. If that fake doctor is also infecting people with illnesses or takes pictures secretly, then it's not only a legal mandate, it's also an ethical one.

and that's the authority you choose to report such a transgression to - not the police, not the oversight agencies, but the yellow pages? that's who you expect to investigate your report a make a judgement about its validity?

Reporting to the law enforcement and removing a "number" are not mutually exclusive. But law enforcement has got their hands full with the more illegal stuff already. So leaving the not too difficult to detect - simple spam, scam and malware to the registrars and hosts to deal with - is not ridiculous.

I'm really sorry, but this infrastructure has functioned for more than two decades. It takes a massive amount of manhours daily to deal with abuse. How can you unironically defend and claim that a system that removes most punitive measures will be good or usable? Is it delusion or naivety?

it is an observation. the two systems without punitive measures I have provided as an example in my original comment - crypto and tor - have been doing alright for more than a decade.

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